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Are Real Flutes Doomed?

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Are Real Flutes Doomed?    20:29 on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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Are your days as a live performer on a real flute doomed?

http://www.vsl.co.at/Player.aspx?DemoId=4668&Lang=2

This is completely computer generated (using a software sampler).

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    21:02 on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

StephenK
(389 points)

Women will always pay to watch handsome and charming men playing flutes.



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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    06:12 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
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Hmmm.
The question is: Are real wind instruments doomed. Not just flutes. The answer to some extent is Yes as long as some keyboard-playing fool thinks that they can mimic the sound of the other instruments well enough and the audiences accept the synth sound so that they other instruments don't need to be hired for gigs.

The tone quality of the different octaves/registers and notes isn't quite right.
The speed of the vibrato never changes.
There are mistakes/missing notes. Flutter tongueing in one spot?

Just my previous point about this Syrinx solo. Most people don't count this piece correctly right from the get-go. In the interest of interperitation every doted eighth rhythm is counted differently.

I've heard a saxophonist play this piece as well. I thought I was having a bad flashback trip at the time.

~Bilbo
N.E. Ohio

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    07:36 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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Again I agree with Bilbo, it is hard for someone operating a keyboard to mimic the subtlties of a great player

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    09:36 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

StephenK
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People pay to watch bad players perform. The fact that there are better players/recordings don't seem to stop these horrid professionals performing... people still enjoy the music somehow.

Worry about the Clarinet and Oboe being phased out before worrying about the flute!



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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    16:21 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Toni
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OH NO!! Computers and keyboards are taking over!

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    18:05 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
(1408 points)

I agree with Stephen.

Some performers on real instruments, play better than a good synthetic performance. It is still likely that real instrumnets are gradually being takien over by synthetic ones for performance, and as the emulating improves, this is likely to accellerate. Already in pit playing, many of the instruments are "on keyboard".

Articial insrumnets are getting to be a lot cheaper than real ones, and almost certainly cheaper to maintain, although they may not last as many decades before servicing is uneconomical.

"Worry about the Clarinet and Oboe being phased out before worrying about the flute! "

Synthetic clarinet: Schumann Fantasiestucke Clarinet/Piano demo here:
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player.aspx?DemoId=4669&Lang=2

Synthetic Bassoon: (Saint-Saens Sonata):
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player.aspx?DemoId=4670&Lang=2


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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    18:46 on Thursday, April 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

AnneMarii
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That does not sound like a flute at all


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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    00:05 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

StephenK
(389 points)

Ooohh... Clarinetists are in danger. The flute and bassoon were obvious fakes, but that Clarinet is quite good.

I suspect it is easier to emulate speaker feedback! tee-hee

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    00:30 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
(1391 points)

All rea l musicalinstruments are in danger even keyboard (dont forget about computer witch could baisicly almost emitate all sounds but on top of all peano/keyboard and winds are the easeyest to be picked on. )
Also I dont think all girls (Counting me)would pay to hear some freek wiht computer tring to emitate sounds.


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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    05:44 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Leporello
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Nah, anymore than any life music is really doomed. Sure you can emulate any instrument, but hey, you could put on a CD as well. I very much doubt that you could ever really replace the sound or feel of a good life performance. I go to classical concerts regularly, and you couldn't replace or mimic the sensation of a whole orchestra playing, or for that matter a good soloist, every performance is a unique experience. Anyway, if a keyboard player is good enough to mimic a good soloist life, then I'm happy to hear him/her play the keyboards, he/she doesn't need to fake something else.

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    08:00 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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Annmarii wrote "That does not sound like a flute at all "

Ah but it probably does to almost anybody who is not a flute player.

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    15:34 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

AnneMarii
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"Ah but it probably does to almost anybody who is not a flute player."

True, Micron, but even when I didn't play the flute, I could tell what was a flute/not a flute


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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    20:01 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

mycrazylovee
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There's no heart in playing a synthesized flute.

And plus, that recording sounds like a saxoflute o_O Odd, I know.

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Re: Are Real Flutes Doomed?    22:35 on Friday, April 07, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
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If we think of it then computers are taking over the world.
If we listen to stuff on tv (Like rapperes) The disk mixing, precation and keyboard souns are maid by computers and not keyboards.

   





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