if anyone needs help with double tonguing i have some good excercises that someon taught me and they really help. get a cup of water and a straw. ok? and blow through the straw as hard as you can. (keep the cup away from you as you dont get wet). then try double tonguing through the straw. ta ga ta ga helps. thats how i do it anyway. um yes. do this excercise every day and trust me all the work will not go to waste. you will find yourself a seriously good double tonguer! seriously try it-it helps
The main difficulty with double tonguing I encounter is having the "ta" and the "ga" produce equally sounding notes. (I use other syllables, such as tu - cu, because of the different language)
How does your exercise with the water and straw could help on that?
One of my languages is the same as José Luis'. I use ta-ca normally, although I am having a hard time over the whole thing! Could anybody make other suggestions?
Kara, I've just tried "doo ga" in my understandimg of the corresponding sounds.
I take "doo" as one pronounces the verb to "do" and "ga" as in gallery.
But the "a" in ga forces my throat to open quite a lot. It seems to give more force to the secpnd tonguing but its exhausting and too slow. Am I taken the wrong vowel values?
You have the doo right, but it depends on your accent when saying galary. Try saying Goo, I think that one works better, at least it does for me. The GA may make you have to part your lips more then neccesary, making it harder, when thinking more about it.
Ah ha, ah ha, Kara!!! Inside joke... great! With double tounging, I was always taught "tuh - kuh" and then told to take simple scales faster and faster. Primitive, but it worked. (I tried the straw thing, though, out of boredom, and I waisted a straw, a cup, and water.)
My tongue has always been disgustingly slow, so I resort to double tonguing more readily than most players.
ONne exercise I found particularly good in getting the sounds even is playing triplet passages with double tonging:
Tkt ktk tkt ktk.....
Another much more difficult exercise, is playing a common rhythm from Sullivan patter songs, and IRish music:
Similar to the above, but the first note of the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th etc triplet is dotted longer, and the second note of these triplets halved in length.
I find that a tick-a-tah works really well to get my tounge moving in practice, as I warm up. It sounds a little like a train, because I place the accent on the first "tick." My tounge has always been stubborn, but this loosens it up a little.
OOh, for triple tounging..it's usually tkt tkt tkt..right? but my teacher wants me to do tkt ktk tkt ktk and so...on. it's kinda harder then the normal one..but she says that'll be better when you triple tounge. have you guys tried that?