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Breathing    04:23 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Flute_91
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I have serious problem with breath. I don't breath very fast and when I have to 'steal' breath in the middle of phrase I make big pause and that sounds awful. Well, it's not only in the middle of phrase, that always happens!
Advice?

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Re: Breathing    08:40 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
(1442 points)

you don't make noise when you breathe normally, so you should not make noise when you breath during a piece, this is a sign of a tight throat and embochure

If you can do some relaxtion exercises and long tones and take relaxed breath, the problem will go away

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Re: Breathing    14:00 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Flutist06
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Also be sure that you are not chest breathing. It's a natural defense mechanism to prevent the absorption of pollutants, and is very common in urban areas, but chest breathing will limit the amount of air you're taking in. If you lie down, and put your hand on your abdomen, you should feel your diaphragm expanding as you breathe (It's very difficult to breathe in any other way while lying down). This is the same feeling you should have when playing. Be sure to fill the bottom of your lungs to the top, and that you breathe whenever the chance arises. Don't treat breathing as a chance to completely refill, but instead as a chance to top off the tank. Anywhere there's a suitable break, you should be taking in some more air, even if you don't feel a dire need for it exactly at that time.

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Re: Breathing    16:32 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
(1364 points)

"so you should not make noise when you breath during a piece, this is a sign of a tight throat and embouchure"

That is not necessarily correct. So far from it, that it could be seen as cruel, blaming the player in an area where the player possibly has no control...

There can be symptoms that show up only during forced inhalation or exhalation. There can be a condition where there is constriction of the airways in the lungs, including the microscopic airways that lead to the air-sacks, for a wide variety of reasons. The condition really can be determined more accurately only with a "full lung function test". This includes spirometer tests, spirometer tests in conjunction with histamine dosing, expired nitrous oxide test to determine inflammation, and possibly CT scan.

In my case, recently analysed, the cause was nothing to do with throat tension or constriction (which I already knew to be the case), nor asthma, nor lung inflammation, nor emphysema, but was almost certainly viral - even simply caused by a dose of cold or flu - when I was a child.

my particular condition is an inconvenience, untreatable, and does not shorten life.

For more related, but by no means comprehensive information, do a google search on bronchiectasis.



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Re: Breathing    16:45 on Sunday, October 15, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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under normal circumstances one should not breathe loudly or in a gasping fashion, but, of course, if one has a cold, sore throat or any other malady, breathing will be affected by constricted lungs..

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Re: Breathing    19:36 on Monday, October 16, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

fluteplayeramb
(63 points)

you should hold any note as long you 5 times in a row every day
trust me it works

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Re: Breathing    19:37 on Monday, October 16, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

fluteplayeramb
(63 points)

sry
as lomg as you can

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Re: Breathing    20:51 on Monday, October 16, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Flutist06
(1545 points)

That may help expand lung capacity, but will not improve the depth or speed at which you breathe in the middle of a phrase. It's a good idea to work on expanding your capacity, but probably won't help a whole lot in this instance.

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Re: Breathing    22:42 on Monday, October 16, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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I totally agree,flutist06, so "trust me", fluteplayeramb, that will not work for this specific issue.

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Re: Breathing    00:46 on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

mrbaritone
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Take a quick breath if you really have to. If you're holding a note out and everyone's playing with you, kinda slowly decrescendo out the breathe and slowly come back in. Plus increase your lung capacity.

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Re: Breathing    08:05 on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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holding a note a long time is only good if one does something with the note, such as altering the color, shading and edge, etc, a long airy tone is counter-productive

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Re: Breathing    04:03 on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1373 points)

Sorry to read this, Micro, I hope it does not conflict too much with your playing.

When I was a child, I had so many and frequent bronchitis that doctors and parents feared there could become chronic. I was lucky and it did not happen; the condition just dissappeared in my early teens.

Looking back, I now attribute that problem to two possible coincident causes: Cold and very humid winters plus my father's cigarrete smoke.

However and though I do not suffer from any known pulmonary problem, my chest radiographs always show dark spots that leave doctors (and me) worried for a while. They are probably scars left by those early infections.

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Re: Breathing    16:38 on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
(1364 points)

It does conflict with my playing and singing, which is why I had it thoroughly investigated. It seems that it is this that makes my inhale particularly loud (The more open the throat, the louder), and makes the last third of my exhale so slow as to be pretty useless.

I guess as we get older we just have to live with more and more body functions being less than ideal, at an accellerating rate. What is important is living with it and not letting it get one down.

   

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