Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too
 

Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too

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Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    13:13 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Tibbiecow
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There is some belief that open hole keys permit louder and clearer sound projection in the flute's lower range. Open-hole keys are also needed for some modern "extended" avant garde pieces, including those requiring the player to play harmonic overtones, or to manipulate "breathy" sounds in addition to the traditional "pure" tone.


This unbelievable bunch of garbage came directly from a 'lovely' new blue flute from eBay (where else??) and is supposedly 'equal to a Jupiter' (maybe on another planet, ha ha.)

The most common harmonic that I use, while warming up, is the series created by fingering low C, then low C#, then low D, then low Eb. Hello, ALL OF THE OPEN-HOLE KEYS ARE COVERED!!! So there could be no possible difference in using an open hole vs. a closed hole flute here.

Also true is that for the lowest range for the flute, those open hole-keys are covered. How can the open holes make a difference in the tone if all the open-hole keys are closed?

A breathy tone seems to be a product of a beginner's embouchure, or perhaps a bad leak or two in the flute. I suppose one could 'manipulate' a breathy tone with the Heimlich Maneuver, too!

If you want a good laugh, here's the eBay item: and hey, I wonder why nobody 'won' this item? http://cgi.ebay.com/STERLING-Blue-and-Silver-Open-Hole-Flute-NEWEST-RANGE_W0QQitemZ110103437094QQcategoryZ10183QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    13:36 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Tibbiecow
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More from the same page:
An open hole flute has some keys that have a hole through the middle which the player must cover with their fingertips in order to facilitate alternate fingerings, "extended techniques" (e.g. quarter-tones, glissando) and multiphonics.


If you are using an open hole key to facilitate an alternate fingering, you would close the key WITHOUT covering the open hole. The hole must be covered to facilitate NORMAL fingerings, hence the use of plugs and the occasionalrepetitive stress injury from practicing too much if covering the open hole requires a cramped hand position.

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    15:05 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Account Closed
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Yep, there is a lot of garbage being sold with a whole lot of BS marketing too. Ebay (in an outside of the US) is a good source for seeing this stuff too. That is funny that you put the link of the that flute in here. I was just saying how pretty I thought the colors were together on it and that I wanted. Not to play of course, but for decor. Marking BS is getting worse and worse and I think it is a down right crime!

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    18:32 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
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If you guys didn't see it, Here's a nice link to a neat gliss with open holes.
in at about 2:50 in the piece.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3C7gKy4SBA


"....and the occasionalrepetitive stress injury from practicing too much if covering the open hole requires a cramped hand position."

Don't know but I wouldn't be so quick to blame the open holes for causing the cramped hand position, and further causing the repetitive stress. I've played a lot of notes in pieces such as the Andersen op. 60 for decades and most of the repetitive stress issues come from either not paying attention to the muscles and over working them or having too much unnecessary muscle tension, especially at a fast fingering speed. Of course having a good hand position on any flute is going to help to alleviate that stress, bad support issues, and help coordination no matter whether the flute's keys have a few holes or not. My flute of choice: Open holes, inline G, and no split E.

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    20:04 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

flauta
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o0o0o awesome video.
yaay open holes. i happen to love them. id definately get injured if i didnt have an offset g though...my hands are so small. i do still have pain and i do agree that it is more about excessive tension on the players part than the open holes because a player can somewhat easily find a mechanism that is comfortable for them. just because everyone has open hole flutes and dont make use of the open holes doesnt mean they are a bad thing.

but the advertising on ebay IS ompletely ridiculous.

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    21:20 on Sunday, March 25, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
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This is true.
I'm not advocating open holes, closed holes, offset Gs or not. Depends upon what each person wants as long as they understand what they are buying into. Hey, if you take care of your flute and you buy quality, you can always sell and try something else. These days that's a fairly good idea to do that every few years.


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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    12:48 on Monday, March 26, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Tibbiecow
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I'm not arguing the point that some people can, and do, make great use of the open holes. Thanks for posting the link to the gliss, way cool.

My point is that the vast majority of people do not use, and so do not need, the open holes. The marketing that convinces most flute buyers that only open hole flutes are high quality instruments can border on the ridiculous.

From what the expert flute technicians tell me, an open hole key is more difficult to pad and shim so that there are no leaks, making routine maintenence more expensive on an open hole vs. a closed hole model flute.

Good point, Bilbo, that repetitive stress injuries are not always caused by open hole or inline G issues. A flute buyer should be knowledgeable about their own hand conformation when buying a flute. You can always add plugs or key extensions. The desire to have open holes, and have them open, is an unfortunate result of all of this silly marketing and can lead to hand problems.

I saw a Lillian Burkart handmade, closed hole flute sell last year for somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500. It languished on the usedflutes site at $5000 and then sold on eBay for half that. Assuming it was in good shape, its open-holed counterpart could be found used for $7500. Ridiculous.

By the way, my flute is open hole and inline G, with plugs in all but the F key. (It was affordable for me because it came with a C footjoint. More silliness. But I bought a handmade, soldered tonehole flute for about $2000 less than what it would have brought as a B-foot flute. And a B-footjoint alone doesn't cost $2000!!)

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    15:12 on Monday, March 26, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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my open hole flute helped lower my cholesterol

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    16:53 on Monday, March 26, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
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I bought an open hole Yamaha with the hope that it would help me in correcting some finger positions, particularly the D hole.

But it proved to add so much difficulty that I ended up plugging that hole first and then all other holes, with the exception of G (and just because I lost one plug...)

But my cholesterol has also lowered, maybe that could be the reason.


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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    22:39 on Monday, March 26, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

kippsix
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Oh you guys....!

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    03:57 on Saturday, April 07, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

shmuelyosef
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Open hole flutes are real chick magnets...better than a red Porsche...ROTFLOL

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Re: Open Hole Flutes can cure the blind, too    01:44 on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Leporello
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I've only been playing one for three days, and my eyesight has definitely improved. I wish I'd seen this post before I got a Pearl though, I could have really gone for that pink-and-gold model.

   

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