Just a little question: ?

    
Just a little question: ?    17:19 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

ChequerBoard
(10 points)
Posted by ChequerBoard

Hey, I have a question about high notes.

*groan from the audience*

I know, I know, everyone seems to ask, but I put in a search and I didn't find what I was after. I've heard that 'making the stream of air thinner' helps with producing the high notes, coupled with greater pressure. My question is: in which dimension is the thin-ness desired? Vertically or horizontally?

For instance, if it's already like this

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(Pretending that it's a cross section fo the air stream)

should it end up like this:

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or like this:

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?

I'm just having a bit of trouble getting clear notes, you see. I encounter difficulty when I reach the second E (I don't know if it's E2, or what, but it's the one that has the same fingering as the lowest E, but is an octave up) and the sound quality seems to degrade the higher up I go. I haven't tried anything higher than the C# above that E yet.

Thanks for any help

Tata!

Jack


Re: Just a little question: ?    17:55 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

drainfamily
(89 points)
Posted by drainfamily

just make the hole (epature) Smaller then blow fast its that simple!


Re: Just a little question: ?    18:02 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

JButky
(657 points)
Posted by JButky

The idea is to raise the speed of the air-stream. Making the aperture smaller is one way. Directing the air higher is another.

Joe B


Re: Just a little question: ?    21:08 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

ckstar
(14 points)
Posted by ckstar

Usually when I can't play high notes clearly I'm blowing too far into the embouchure hole so try directing the air higher.


Re: Just a little question: ?    21:27 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

lonelyflutist_15
(42 points)

What helped me is to blow faster air, and think of the pitch of the note before yo play it and practice it with a tuner.


Re: Just a little question: ?    22:18 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

Flutist06
(1545 points)
Posted by Flutist06

Every player is different and will need to manipulate their embouchure differently to produce a desired effect. There's no way we can say "make your aperture smaller/bigger by this much in blank direction", particularly without being able to observe you playing. I would suggest just experimenting with your playing until you find what works for you. Try taking a note you like the tone of and move upwards chromatically, slurring, trying to match the tone of the starting note. If the tone deteriorates, stop there. I don't know how long you've been playing...Eventually you'll be able to play 3 octaves or more, but give it time if you're still just a beginner. It takes work and patience to get some of this stuff.


Re: Just a little question: ?    13:33 on Monday, May 14, 2007          

ChequerBoard
(10 points)
Posted by ChequerBoard

I see, I see!

Thanks a lot guys, that's all great help. I'll try the slurring thing, too, that seems great. I guess it will take some time - I've only had the flute for about 3 weeks! Sometimes I'm fed up with how 'breathy' the higher notes sound, but that's only natural, I suppose!

Thanks again; have fun fluting!

Jack


Re: Just a little question: ?    14:40 on Monday, May 14, 2007          

ekdavies
(208 points)
Posted by ekdavies

I find telling beginners to imagine they are blowing into a straw is an effective way of ensuring the lip opening is smaller and (eventually) channels the air in a controlled direction.


Re: Just a little question: ?    09:17 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007          

jose_luis
(2369 points)
Posted by jose_luis

When I was starting learning, my teacher made me excersise by having me blow air and feel it on my hand, placed at a certain distance (about one feet at the beginning).

I had to focus the air stream and blow harder so that I could feel the air at increasing distances.

The lips are different among people and you have to find the right position of yours; then you will have to adjust them to allow for other changes, but that should come a little later.

Hope it helps.


Re: Just a little question: ?    11:08 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007          

Patrick
(1743 points)
Posted by Patrick

here's may take on this, at risk of repeating myself, I always have a very strong airstream, it "appears" to go faster on high notes because of the small apeture in my lips, blow air through different size straws to see what i mean.


   




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