Okay, I will catch up with you tomorrow then.

what? they blocked me on the galway forum cus they thought i was jim. I'm fluteplaya12 over there.

fluteplaya12 was blocked because it was logged in with the same IP address with the rest of Jim's identities. I am just going by what I was told.

Ann, yes, I have seen him give out his phone # although, I doubt it is his.

Nothing.

Ultimately all that we can do is to ignore these sorts of posts. The only thing these idiots are interested in is getting a rise out of people. The more you call them names or enter into a debate with them, the more gratifying it becomes, so just treat the post like it wasn't there.

I think we can all recognize the occasional flame war between regular contributing members, and those really aren't a problem (most of the time). But if anyone takes grave offence or expresses some ridiculously contentious opinion within days of joining or in their first few posts, he/she should just be ignored.

It does mean that anyone who joins up just to tell us how deeply upset they are by this forum, should probably just shrug, conclude that we're all a bunch of jerks, flip the bird in the general direction of the internet, and move on...

(Not a large price to pay I think...)

I have bad news concerning IP address. PM me if you are interested

Ughhhhh are you kidding me how can I have the same IP adress as that idiot?

The internet= serious business.

Would anyone mind giving me the url of Galway's site so I can peruse this for myself?

"Ughhhhh are you kidding me how can I have the same IP adress as that idiot?"

another person couold ask the opposite question. How could you not?

Alas...poor Jim M and poor Phil McCnad all of them, we knew them well......or not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jloP18bzCc

Mrs C good to see you around :-):
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Galway-Flute-Chat/messages

Jim's also playing silly beggers on Flutetalk.com. Here he calls himself "Jim Dand". Rather amusingly he actually started a thread called: "Jim Dand is not Jim Millen", despite signing a previous Jim Dand post as Millen.

http://www.flutetalk.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1055203634

I don't know if anyone has notified them.
(Or if this is old new to everyone...)

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Sorry: old newS of course...

This is true Leporello.
One of his many mistakes......
I posted something on this here:

http://www.8notes.com/f/25_216308.asp?spage=2

All right forum. Enough is enough. I have no idea where Kara came up with those ridiculous names "coming from the same IP address" but I am none of those people.

I did choose other identities because of your chasing me around --- but none of the names that Kara mentioned --- and I can prove it.

And since when can't one use an alias? Most of you on this forum do. I guess that's o.k.

And since when can't one join several forums. Many of you do. I guess that's o.k., too.

And I've never positioned myself as being a minor. Even one of your own members is complaining about being banned.

As far as Ann's remark that I was "stupid" for giving out my phone number --- I have a better word: it's called honest. How many of you give out your phone number(s)? Hiding, are we?

As far as mbrowne's threat --- be very careful. You're treading on thin ice because I can easily PROVE whatever I need to.

All of my e-mails are authored of one of my seven companies. Just look at my bio ..... I'll wait. Yes, capitalquest. And you know the other one.

I really don't want to come back here, so let's put this to rest. I don't enjoy being where I'm not wanted. And I've been thrown out of better places.

In closing, you might want to think twice about chasing me around from forum to forum with the express intent of getting me banned --- because that's something I CAN (and will) do something about. That's a threat to me, an invasion of my rights (believe it or not --- I have the same as you).

Anyone can go to the "free" e-mail accounts, open an identity (as many as they want) --- and go to town. I never did that. ALL of my e-mails come from one or more of my COMPANY accounts.

I won't be back to post or reply anymore. But I can always visit to see what's going on behind my back.

Just be careful about your slanderous remarks. I CAN do something about those. And, remember --- I save ALL posts/replies and e-mails.

So, play nice --- and I leave. A deal?

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jloP18bzCc"

What do you mean?

Julius (or whatever you actually are called),
Have you thought of seeking help? You do know that you have been known to argue amongst yourselves.

As you suggest, slander, threats, lies can legally come back to haunt you as well. Many of these things are actually out of our hands now. So, does this game sound exciting to you now?

I never intended to come back. But everytime I go to my private e-mail I get a "response" from 8notes.

BILBO: I never "threatened" anyone --- and you know it. I've never been anything but respectful to you. Remember, and don't forget it --- I SAVE every post/replies to my hard drive. I have, in fact, always thanked you for your contributions. You should hang your head in shame for the way you're treating me. But, then, how could you? As far as "lies" --- there are none. I've openly stated that I used different aliases on different accounts because members of 8notes are trying to get me banned from every site. That's YOUR agenda. It's clear, it's open ---- and yes, to reply to your post, "we're just starting to have fun". Except I WON'T be back. Unless it's with my attorneys for violating my civil rights --- undue harassment --- and defamation of character. Then, we'll see who gets excited.

Yeah --- I read your post wherein you were all taking "bets to see how long I would last on the Galway forum" --- and I copied it. That's ALL the proof that I need. Except, there's much more beyond that. And I copied those, too.

ANN: My, how forgetful we are. I've never been disrespectful to you --- like Bilbo, I've always thanked you for your help, whether here or on the Galway forum. As far as my past teachers go, the "fact that I didn't study with them" is a bold-faced lie that you heard from "someone". You would have to conduct a SEANCE to have gotten this information, because I was a teen-ager, when my teachers were in their 40s' and 50s'. I'm 64 years old as I write this --- how old would that make them?

I've already explained why I use aliases. It's because you people chase me all over the 'net trying to get me banned, no matter where I am. And, using a different "user name" is NOT illegal. 90% of YOU use aliases --- what? I'm not allowed the same? To close, PHIL and I are NOT the same person. WHEN are you going to put that to rest? Another lie.

You know what's amusing to me? IF you wanted to know something --- why not just ASK ME? I would have told you. Believe me! I have NO problem in telling you whatever you want to know. Why go behind my back to stir up trouble?

I think it's called character. Try and get one.

NOW --- I will NOT be back on this forum again --- unless I get (the usual) nasty replies and remarks. THEN, I will respond (and copy), to diary my records. So, the best advice is, don't reply --- because it will pop up on my e-mail, and I'll reply in self-defense.

I thought we had a deal??? Leave me alone --- and I leave you alone. Clear enough? At last?

You all got what you wanted. Now leave me in peace.

"Bump this reply" if you want --- it won't do any good. I sent it, have a copy of it --- and can prove anything and everything I've said on this forum.

I have passed the peace-pipe. The deal is: "leave me alone ---and I'll not be back here". Stir up MORE trouble --- and you just stepped on a rattlesnake. You just don't know it.

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And you know what the really sad part is? I really respected all of you, even in the face of criticism. And I still do. I learned a lot on this forum.

I will never be a member of this forum again, but as I said before, I will really miss all of you. I meant it. I didn't have to say it if it weren't true. Why would I, after all of the nasty rebuttals?

Think beyond me, and think of the others who might join this forum. It is my only hope that they are not met with the hatred that I faced.

I regret that I never "fitted in". But the past is the past --- I believe in looking forward. I'm not "Phil" --- nor some "phantom" presence. I only spoke in what I sincerely believed in. Whether right or wrong. It was never anything other than opinions.

Regards.

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Out of respect for Ann: I am taking her advice. She told me that she was a "member of a forum but never posted for over a year."

That's good advice. I will not post on any other forum unless and until I "know my way around". Good advice. I respect it ---- and will follow it. I think that is what my mistake on THIS forum was --- I jumped in, too soon.

Thank you, Ann.

Regards.