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Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan

Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan

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Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    15:25 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kangi
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What is the difference between those two markings on the barrel of Yamaha flutes? Are they different version of the same flute (one being for the American market)?

For exemple, what would be the difference between those two 581 flutes that were recently sold on eBay:

(this one says Nippon Gakki, with flower engravings)
item number 290194191973 with photo here http://www.petspawnsandimports.com/eBay/Pictures/1227_Flute_3.jpg

(this says "Made in Japan" only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-Sterling-Silver-581-Gold-Lip-Plate-Flute_W0QQitemZ260200912614QQihZ016QQcategoryZ85874QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Both have the same features and are marked as 581.

Dominique

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    15:57 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Plekto
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One is Japan market and the other U.S. Basically the same model, though small features sometimes vary.

I have one of these(U.S. model), actually, and it's a great workhorse. College, gigs, jamming with friends - it's capable of it all for a very reasonable price. Both are comparable to the new 600 series, though with an older headjoint design.

Note - if you really want a newer headjoint, I've seen brand new old stock EC cut handmade ones going for $450-$500.(They run about $650 new)

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    16:17 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kangi
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One is Japan market and the other U.S. Basically the same model, though small features sometimes vary.

Thanks! But wich one is the US model? Nippon Gakki or the other.

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    16:19 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

suzie
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I think the Nippon Gakki ones are older...

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    17:30 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kara
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They are both made in Japan, not the US but Suzie is correct, the ones make that say Nippon Gakki are the older ones. I usually tried to avoid them if they have the written on the body as Yamaha did not make anywhere near the quality as they do now for flutes.

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    18:30 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Plekto
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Some of the Japanese models even today say similar things, so it's really important to get as modern a flute as possible.

Yamaha excels at being like Toyota. They take someone else's work and innovation and copy it and tweak it constantly. Their goal, for instance, in Pianos, is to equal Steinway on a mass produced level, and they are getting very close.

ie - it's not a craftsmanship/artist ideology so much as one of constantly copying and improving their product like a bunch of technicians and engineers. So newer is almost always better in their case.



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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    20:05 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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I was thinking of the Toyota comparison myself, lots of the Toyotas in the US are made in Kentucky, or California, and I am sure they are still good..

Just a note to add how nice it is that our nice forum is just that, a nice forum...

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    22:45 on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kara
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Ahhh... yes. It is nice to have our friendly forum back again to normal. I hope the police caught up with that jerk!

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    13:43 on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Plekto
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Shh.. you'll jinx us...

Yeah, sorry about that Kara Your comment about Trumpets makes sense. Another way to describe it is to compare an Alto Clarinet to a Saxiphone.

Both play the same notes and use similar reeds and so on, but the clarinet has a darker and less pronounced treble range/sound to it.(less blare and punch to it compared to an alto sax)

A lot of orchestral players live/love playing 32nd and 64th notes all day long and need to do fancy solo work and such I guess - but for me, I've come full circle as I've gotten older and love the sound of old fashioned wood and ceramic flutes. where it's all about the sound and not about the speed. (though even a high resistance slower headjoint can go plenty fast if you work at it)

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    14:01 on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

suzie
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Are the Yamaha's with the floral barrel engravings supposed to be better than the ones without? For some reason I'd thought that the floral-engraved Yamaha's were supposed to be better but then again I don't know much about Yamaha's. Anyone care to touch up on this slight difference? Kate? =)

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    16:30 on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kara
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I am not sure about that one Suzie. I think they are just the older ones.

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Re: Yamaha flutes: Nippon Gakki & Made in Japan    16:55 on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
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"yes. It is nice to have our friendly forum back again to normal. I hope the police caught up with that jerk!"

Yes its nice to have it this way, but I don't think it will be for long,

Kara did you report him already?

   

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