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Ideas?    19:52 on Sunday, April 20, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
(1368 points)

Ok I’m working on project (A web page) its for a "Computer science" class.
Any Ideas?


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Re: Ideas?    20:16 on Sunday, April 20, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
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Flutists here are probably not much acquainted with computer science, perhaps with a few exceptions.

If you could provide more information on the type of project (i.e whether it has or could have any relation to music/flute playing) or just what your present ideas are, maybe some could help.



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Re: Ideas?    21:24 on Sunday, April 20, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
(1368 points)

I was thinking of doing the entire thig on woodwinds and then devide into diffrent sections. but I'm blank on what to put into it.


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Re: Ideas?    22:04 on Sunday, April 20, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
(825 points)

Have you any knowledge of MIDI or synthesized sound?
or
how computers, the internet and file sharing have changed the recording industry.

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Re: Ideas?    22:24 on Sunday, April 20, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

zoom
(735 points)

Here's a brainstorm: what about linking developments in woodwind technology (for want of a better term) with the pieces being written at that particular time? In terms of the size of the task, it could easily be divided into flute/oboe/clarinet/bassoon/other, with further sub-groupings if necessary (eg: flutes in C only; not piccolos or any other size flute).

For example, re the flute: the progressive addition of keys, Boehm's innovations, the B foot ... linking to particular sonatas, concerti and prominent orchestral solos. So, you could use the site to see:

• pictures of the type of flute Mozart was writing for. (Or: Wagner, Dvorak, Messiaen ...)
• when the B foot was introduced, these were the works being written ...

You could link extensively to external sites.

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(2) Here's a fascinating site dealing with flute acoustics from the physicist's point of view: http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/flute/

In particular, you might find the "virtual flute" page interesting: http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/flute/virtual/main.html

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Re: Ideas?    07:22 on Monday, April 21, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1367 points)

OK, thanks.

I think that a WEB page for a science class should have strong and direct relationship with computers and xx (xx could be flute, as this forum goes)

some ideas and brainstroming are very interesting but may be too far from computers, except Bilbo's about midi and synthesizers.

I have been doing some work with Finale and found it very useful in my own process of practising beginner to intermediate pieces. There are several other (and very popular) music notation software.

Perhaps you could reserach about them, their degree of usefulness for music students and also for pros (several moern Musicals and Rock Operas use only synthesized quite complex and accomplished music). The future of chair and bone musicians could depend on these advancements. Quite polemic assessment, I know, so good subject for further research

Comparing those applications on their features, popularity and sucess in the music synthesis (and also the computer resources needed for each) could be interesting.

Another theme could be the model/type/quality/resources required at the PC sound cards level to achieve resonably decent instruments tone quality.

Of course the MIDI standard should be included and analyzed in your research. But there may be other standards of the same type that I do not know but could be important.

There are other simpler applications that are helpful and computer related such as online tuners, metronomes, chord makers and the like.

Another important subject is PC recording/editing software (such as Audacity), but there are many others.

The present possibility of immediate downloading fully licensed full music scores is also important.

But the big issue of current P2P huge traffic with new applications such as Bit Torrent (and its flag ship, Pirate Bay (located in Europe, BTW) could make a good Web page all alone

Finally, you probably know that one of the holy grails or missing software devices is one with the capability of producing a midi file (or a file in any music notation application), from a normal music recording or from a mp3 file.

I acknowledge that such a device could soon become a new nightmare for the recording industry and for composers, but this is a different discussion.

This listing does not pretend to be exhaustive, just the ideas that came to my mind early in this morning here, but I hope this could help


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Re: Ideas?    11:48 on Monday, April 21, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
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I chose to just do entire thing on woodwinds because getting into anything other then that it might take over 5pagies. My division for pages is Single Reeds, Double reeds and flutes. Any ideas what I can say about them? (ROFL if it wouldn’t be the requirement for the class I wouldn’t be blank about the topic.)

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Re: Ideas?    22:04 on Monday, April 21, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
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What's the relation of woodwinds with computer science?

Or maybe just the writing of the html code about any subject will be enough?

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Re: Ideas?    11:33 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Lera
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We actually have to make a web page on topic of our choice for comp. sci.( <- that’s a class its for) to “show our knowledge of HTML” so yeah I chose my topic on wood winds.
So far my page looks seriously blank and messed up. (I’m bouncing from topic to topic not even sure where to begin)

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Re: Ideas?    12:26 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

atoriphile
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Why don't you create a page for each woodwind instrument that includes a short introduction, a short history, its range, and a link to a fingering chart? You might also include a list of pieces that feature that instrument. That would be both useful and simple to create.

Good luck!

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Re: Ideas?    21:37 on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
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I did my own WEB page a few years ago and had to learn HTML very quickly. Depending on your professor requirements, it could be much helpful if you are allowed to use a HTML editor, instead of just plain code writing. You will learn good code pieces in the process.

I used Coffee Cup then and I still use it. It can be downloaded for free and runs for a 30 days demo period. www.coffeecup.com/free-editor/

I strongly suggest not to use the code generated by word processors as Word or others, it is awfully inefficient and you will not get good notes for your work...

As in any written production, good order from the beginning is important, it is better to write/draw a draft of how you wish your page to look like and then produce the code to get it.

I suppose you will be using tables for the format; it is the oldest method and still necessary to master, but modern non-flash pages are using CSS (Cascaded Style Sheets) massively.

I can provide the URL of my page by private mail if you wished to have a look at a non-professionally made (but good, I hope) WEB page from someone who started form scratch and had no previous knowledge of HTML.

I use some CSS too, but very little and only for functions that are not available by older means.

I also added a some functions on Java script, to make the pages interactive (this should please your professor)

Good luck!




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Re: Ideas?    15:03 on Friday, April 25, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

leighthesim
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you could just do some of the history an introduction to it and to way you play it, you could also include a couple of samples of what they sound like and some famous peices played on them

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Re: Ideas?    21:18 on Friday, April 25, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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"...Finally, you probably know that one of the holy grails or missing software devices is one with the capability of producing a midi file (or a file in any music notation application), from a normal music recording or from a mp3 file...."

Is this anywhere near that holy grail?
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna

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Re: Ideas?    06:06 on Saturday, April 26, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
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Hi Micron!

Thanks for this very interesting link.

I think that yes, they are getting closer and closer. The new Direct Note Access tech is amazing. It works wonderfully for guitar, as shown in that video. Splitting a chord into its components and being able to modify each chord note independently is a big accomplishment.

Now, to produce a midi file from a normal polyphonic recording, one composed of different instruments, is still to come. There is at least one appl that can do this to a certain extent (I have not used it so far), but the user must define the instruments in separate lines and provide some other important information.

If the final goal is to obtain a written score from a recorded piece, the availability of a midi version would solve the problem, because as midi, a piece can be easily input to Finale or similar SW and then printed (or modified + printed) there.

I suppose a good musician can write down the score by listening to the music directly and perhaps checking with a piano, but for the rest of us it could be a difficult job.

These reflections are the type of material I suggested to Lera for her WEB page, as I understood initially that it was a page on musical science for her science class (and not an exercise on html writing, as it finally resulted to be)

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