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mkmatt07
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Where does vibrato come from? Does it come from the throat, the abdomen, or the diaphram? Thanks
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luvjasmin
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I feel mine comes from the diaphram and the throat, but I think that it can come from all 3 depending on the player.
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Micron
(1361 points)
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The movie clip I saw, of inside the throat of a player, suggested that it comes more from the throat as the speed increases.
Luvjasmine, I wonder what exactly you call your diaphragm. Although it can OPPOSE the blowing out of air, it otherwise has no role in blowing air.
Furthermore, it has no nerves that allow the brain to be conscious of what it is doing. So we cannot "feel" our diaphragm.
Many people use the word diaphragm when they mean abdominal muscles, which are indeed involved in changing blowing pressure, hence vibrato, depending on the type of vibrato.
Having said that, fluctuations in air pressure could indeed be made by using the diaphragm to oppose pressure provided by the abdominals, to create vibrato. But it seems like creating counter-productive tension to me... muscles opposing others. Not exactly "Alexander Technique".
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jose_luis
(1373 points)
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I am just starting to learn how to use "correct" vibrato (it took me 6 years).
My teacher explained that students should avoid throat vibrato (at least while not being advanced students) because there are risks of doing it wrongly (sort of the goat thing).
According to what she is teaching me, intermediate level should first train to do it from the abdominal region, particularly for lower notes - slower vibrato. I have so tried and I could do it from first attempt, only that it is difficult to understand (and to explain) how.
The abdominal muscles are noticeably working for this effect and it could be the diaphragm is also opposing them, but one cannot feel this muscle (though I have read it is the strongest and biggest in the body).
When it comes higher notes and faster vibrato, it seems (to me) the source moves higher to the chest zone but still not to the throat.
Teacher said there are people that can also produce lips vibrato (??).
Patrick says good vibrato comes from the throat and sure he knows! Bout it probably means that professionals use or can use the throat for it, but probably it is not the best way to start as a student.
In any case, I am not allowed to do it with the throat right now. These last years it has been a constant fight to get rid of my spontaneous vibrato (it did not fit the works style or simply it was not good enough).
First time I was "officially" introduced to it is with Mozart's Andante (1/2 D second bar section B).
Of course my comments refer to a particular teacher and her method (and my personal way of learning), it could be completely different with other teachers and other students.
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theneonghost
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Natural vibrato - you just naturally push the pitch either up or down without really thinking about it (everything sort of sounds pretty)
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Micron
(1361 points)
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Natural?
To me that means you achieved it without conscious effort.
It could be natural and good.
Or it could be natural and bad.
"Natural" could also be a euphemism for "goatlike"!!
Pretty meaningless really.
If you like the sound of it, then keep it and don't worry.
I'm sure there are several ways of achieving good vibrato, including pulsating lip tension. Consider the huge variety of ways that different woodwinds achieve vibrato. There is no fundamentally right or wrong, as long as it achieves the intended sound.
And I guess Tiny Tim made a lot more money from his vibrato that I do. Ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0
Even Acker Bilk's vibrato, although it was outrageous for classical players of the time, was right for Acker Bilk, and made him a lot of money! :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jZeXvpyZQ
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tenorsax13
(523 points)
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Oh ok, I don't sound like a goat, it sounds mormal. I just thought its better to learn the correct way instead of the way I do it. But if its good, then I'm happy! 
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Patrick
(1439 points)
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I never learned vibrato, and I can control it faster or slower as I see fit, once a teacher tried to teach it to me, it almost ruined it..
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Kito
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It just depends on how you feel comfortable; vibrato doesn't specifically have to come from one location. I heard James Galway say that his comes from the throat, and mine comes from a combination of the throat and my thoracic cavity (not really the diaphragm and not really the lungs, but kind of a combination). My friend the tenor sax player does it with his tonsils, which is really odd. Whatever makes you feel like you're doing it right and doesn't seem forced is how you should do it, in the end.
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