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Chaminade Concertino Questions    19:46 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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After having my last copy torn apart by my demonic cousins, I have been provided another copy, thanks to Kara. Having said that I had a few questions that I wanted to ask regarding this solo.

1. tuplets-the simplest way to count them?
2. Measure 20- D trill key used, right?
3. Measure 23- double tongue the sextuplets?
4. 3rd octave F-G trill: Regular F + Trill the thumb key?
5. Meaning of "lunga" in measure 111?
6. meaning of the "ossia" in measure 141?

I understand this is a lot to answer, so please just answer what you can. Thanks so much, I want to prepare this early so I'll be able to play it perfectly come solo time, this might be the song I do, I need to get my private lesson teacher's approval. Thanks!

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    20:35 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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1. tuplets-the simplest way to count them?
2. Measure 20- D trill key used, right?
3. Measure 23- double tongue the sextuplets?
4. 3rd octave F-G trill: Regular F + Trill the thumb key?
5. Meaning of "lunga" in measure 111?
6. meaning of the "ossia" in measure 141?

1. do you mean septuplets??
2. yes
3. depends how fast your single is, I use single or a combination of single and double
4. yes
5. hold the note a long time
6. choose which version of this measure you want

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    20:39 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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well, the confusing ones are the septuplets, tentuplets(?), and eleventuplets(?).

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    21:00 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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I believe there was a thread recently about this..see if you can look it up as she asked the same questions...that said, some do those as 3 + 4 or vice versa, I just count them as sevens, just don't let the audience how you're counting them, they just want to hear elegant shapes...

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    21:03 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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Yes I found that thread but it was a little confusing...I read over it and it explained septuplets but didnt even mention 10 or 11 tuplets.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    21:44 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

arabians207
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My teacher has me breaking the 11's into 4 4 and 3. Are there any 10-tuplets? I looked through the piece and didn't see any.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    21:51 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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oops! nevermind, the tentuplets were invisible. lol I don't see any either!

4-4-3...interesting combination, I just tried it and it works much better than whatever i was doing.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    22:26 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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Annie, do you mean septuplets? Because 3+4=7...I think...
So the way I've been doing sextuplets is 3-3. Is that accurate, or would 2-2-2 be better?

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    23:04 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

arabians207
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For the sextuplets I just count that as two triplets, so 3-3.

My teacher says our brains cannot easily count/divide things easily into more than 4.. outside examples are phone numbers are 3-3-4, SS numbers are 3-2-4 and ya.





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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    07:20 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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look at all the good advice you are getting, just don't let on to the audience what you are doing

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    09:18 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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I don't think I understand what you mean Patrick, please explain in a PM.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    12:03 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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some, when thinking of those long runs as smaller groups, which is a great idea, don't accent them in a way that will spell it out to the audience, they want to hear a shape(s) made up of many notes, not individual notes

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    12:06 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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oh, so its ok to mix up the duration of some of the runs, maybe hold the lowest or highest note a little longer than the others? I think now I understand what you mean.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    13:05 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jvanullen
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With the sextuplets, I think it's appropriate to divide them as barred.

Examples...Beat 4 of (18), even as 6. Beats 2 and 3 of 24, divided 2+2+2, and beat 4 as 3+3. Etc.

That's just how I do it. I don't really worry about the subdivisions of the 7's and 11's, so sue me. I learned them by fitting them into a beat on a metronome. It felt more natural to me...Again, that's just me. They aren't really even. They go where I want them to.

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Re: Chaminade Concertino Questions    13:05 on Monday, July 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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in other words, play shapes not notes

   





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