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A little help on theory    15:40 on Monday, March 02, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1976 points)

Hi!
I need a little help in music theory: what is the name in English of a note that is "dashed" at the beam. For example, a "dashed" half shows in the score as a half with an oblique short line on the beam, but is to be played as four separate eights.

Sorry for my ignorance... Thank you.

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Re: A little help on theory    15:53 on Monday, March 02, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
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Re: A little help on theory    16:45 on Monday, March 02, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

JOhnlovemusic
(865 points)

Jose you are wanting to know the name of the "short-hand" technique aren't you?
The one where slash is 8th notes, 2 slashes means 16th notes.
I believe technically it is called, "the stroke symbol" to indicate repeating the note.
But good luck finding that in any or all texts. It's not in Harvard.
Terry Burrows has it in his book, HOW TO READ MUSIC. But he doesn't really give it a name.

It does fall under the heading, or genre, of repeats.
It would come after tremelo and vibrato and before Da Capo's and Del Signo's.

It is a common short hand technique.

So a half note marked to be played as four 8th notes would be a stroked half note.
A half note to be played as eight 16th notes, would be a double stroked half note.
I think you will be safe calling it a stroke as it would coincide with the percussionists labeling of 2 stroke. four stroke, five stroke rolls.

Does that help you?

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Re: A little help on theory    04:34 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1976 points)

Thank you.

I did not imagined it was so complicated. It is not the tremolo effect, as explained in Wikipedia, although the symbol resembles the one I am looking for, except it is a single stroke and not several as in tremolo.

Most probably it is a type of short-hand notation. It is used by Giuliani in one of his "Pieces faciles et agreables for Flute and guitar" I have to play in a couple of weeks.

I needed this to tell Finale how to play a stroked note (now that I know the name). And yes, I have found the sign in the articulations tool and it does exactly what we are saying. It is not in the Finale index, however, so I am not sure about the name.

Thank you gain.


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Re: A little help on theory    07:50 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
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Re: A little help on theory    08:28 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1976 points)

Not exactly, Bilbo. See my post just previous to yours. The signs are similar, but the effect is not a tremolo.

I found the stroke thing in Finale (in a the articulations tool menu) and it works fine. In my version it is the sign #32.

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BTW, I have just managed to repair my turntable with a new belt and I can now listen again to my collection of flute LPs. I will make CDs from them using Audacity and my new netbook Toshiba NB100.
Very happy about this. I have Rampal collection of all Bach sonatas (threee LPs!) plus several from others with A. Nicolet.

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Re: A little help on theory    18:37 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

gabsboy
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THanks for telling me it was in the artuculation tool box. IT took me 20 minutes and a lot of googling to get to your wisdom. Gracia, gracia....

Alla the first movement of Mendelssohns Italian No. 4

Gabsboy

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Re: A little help on theory    19:47 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
(1156 points)

Hi Jose_Luis,
I think that you are dealing with a staccato abbreviation where all of the notes are the same pitch then.
The number of bars on the stem determine the speed of repetition. Sometimes they also put in the number of staccatos above the note. For example, If you do want 4-eighth notes, then one bar for eighth notes is placed with the 4 staccato dots on the half note's head. Of course if the number of dots gets high, (Like if you want 6 - 16th notes on a dotted quarter), then the dots may be left out for clarity.

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Re: A little help on theory    17:20 on Friday, March 13, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
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Re: A little help on theory    18:00 on Friday, March 13, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1976 points)

Yes, repeated notes. In my case it is the example of bar 6 of the dolmetsch text.

I notice that in my initial question I confounded the beam of a note with its stem. Sorry about that.

I am not at all familiar with those names as minim, quaver etc.

We have our own strange names in Spanish (1/4= negra, 1/8= corchea, 1/32= fusa etc.) but for English I adopted their fractional names such as 1/2 or 1/8, that are easier and almost self-explaning.

But now is time to learn a new thing...

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For some mysterious reason, Google book does not allow non-USA residents to see their books. This has happened to me before (The Boëm's treatise on Flute construction and for this reason I could not open your link. But I think that the subject is clear enough anyway.

   

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