I am looking for certain music

    
I am looking for certain music    19:07 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009          

chermo
(13 points)
Posted by chermo

does anyone have the hannah montana flute sheet music book? I am looking for someone who would be interested in sending me a copy of the whole book for free???? I can't afford it as of right now and my daughter needs to start practicing her flute and this will be the only way she will start practicing. She starts band next year but we already own 2 flutes so she can start now but I can't find the music for free anywhere. Can anyone help me out?


Re: I am looking for certain music    19:41 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009          

adamrussell
(66 points)
Posted by adamrussell

Your asking someone to break the law. the sheet music is covered under copyright, we have to buy the music in the first place and not being rude but if you can afford to buy her 2 flutes there is no reason why you cant buy the sheet music to go with it.
There is plenty of sheet music avalable for free that's not covered under copyright i would suggest you google for it.

And realy she wont have the choice of playing only what she wants to play in band so it may be a good time for her to learn that in life we don't all ways get what we want


Re: I am looking for certain music    20:59 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009          

Patrick
(1743 points)
Posted by Patrick

check out Ebay, I buy music there all the time, just search under flute sheet music, I think I have seen that book there, good luck


Re: I am looking for certain music    13:30 on Thursday, May 28, 2009          

chermo
(13 points)
Posted by chermo

I never in my post said I bought her 2 flutes I said we already own 2 flutes. No where in my original post did I say I bought 2 flutes. I am sure I am not the only one on any forum for music ask others for copies of their music they have. I know there is a lot of flute music online that is free but I really know she will play these songs. She starts band next school year for her first time and if I can get her to learn the fingerings on songs she likes she will be ahead of the class by knowing all the fingerings. I know and so does she that she won't be able to play whatever songs she wants but if it helps her learn before band starts then I will do what I can to get her to practice. I guess if I need to ask someone to break the law as you put it then I guess that is what it takes. I am just wondering if anyone is willing to do that then. I would do it for others if I had copywrited music they wanted so I am sure someone on this forum or another one would do it for me. It is a personal preference on who wants to do it or now. If you own the music and don't want to break the law then don't. I don't know you and I won't come after you because you didn't do something you didn't want to do.

Also, to the other person who responded thank you but I have checked ebay and still as of now I can't buy anything as cash is tight for a few weeks or more. If I can't get the music before I have the cash I will then use ebay as it is cheaper there.


Re: I am looking for certain music    14:48 on Thursday, May 28, 2009          

CessiMarie
(152 points)
Posted by CessiMarie

Chermo, I have not long ago been in serious money trouble, so I do understand your frustration. The thing is, it is never a good idea to something illegal or to ask someone else do that for you.

Find some other music, try to locate the scores in a library, find some kind of temporary extra job, but please do not believe that you must have that music right now and for free. I hope your daughter will be enjoying flute for many many years to come, and if you are honest with her, and support her playing in other ways, a few weeks will not stop that.


Re: I am looking for certain music    15:55 on Thursday, May 28, 2009          

jose_luis
(2369 points)
Posted by jose_luis

If you are in a big city, check public libraries. You may be lucky and get it.

If you have the music recorded, you could try some free SW that is available in Internet to convert digital files (mp3 or WAV into midi. From midi you can print the music.
TS-AudioToMIDI is one of them and they offer a trial-before-buy download (do not know what its limitations are)

But there maybe a lot of work involved and the results may be rather off from perfect. So that you will probably need to correct the errors by ear or using a keyboard to find the correct notes. Some knowledge of music notation and theory are necessary for this reason.

I do not think this procedure is illegal by itself. i.e. the main problem with strictly enforced copyrighted music is that even if you buy the music score (or the CD, I am not sure that you are entitled to play it in public, without paying a fee to the copyright owners.

Is a very complicated subject and we all try to stay on the legal side. But with recent, extremely commercial music like Hanna Montana I believe it is risky to do anything at all, except listening to the CD at home, with all windows closed so that your neighbours cannot not hear it (I am exaggerating a little, yes).

<Added>

too negative, sorry.

I mean, cannot not = cannot


Re: I am looking for certain music    17:36 on Thursday, May 28, 2009          

flute_n_bassoon
(309 points)
Posted by flute_n_bassoon

If she is just learning, the Hannah Montana may be too tough, if you do get a copy.
I remember back in 6th grade, I won the musician of the year award at my elementary school. The award came with a $50 dollar check. I went and spent it on many Disney song books for flute, only to find that I couldn't even play them, even after 2 school year band courses. Get your daughter an "accent on achievement" book. That way, the book includes instruction on reading music, fingerings, and even includes many of the classic beginning songs. Many band programs in schools use that book also, so you may even save money buying one book instead of two.
Most likely though, your daughter will not be able to play Hannah Montana in a few weeks of teaching. Flute is tougher than it looks, and Hannah Montana songs are harder to play than you would think, even when the notes are only quarter notes, as they were in the various books I had bought in 6th grade.

Congrats on trying to introduce music to your daughter early though, not many do that.

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oops... correction: "Most likely though, your daughter will not be able to play Hannah Montana for the first few months when she starts flute."
I'm sure your daughter is extremely gifted, but unless you find a way to provide her with private flute lessons and get her to practice basic songs for at least a half-hour a day, it will most likely take her more than a few weeks of flute to get to the level needed to play many Disney songs.
Second thought....many high school musicians will provide free lessons for interested band students. Private lessons from experienced musicians can help a ton. It would be a good thing to look in to.

<Added>

Also, if she really truly wants to play flute, than why will she only practice if you get her Hannah Montana music?
It shouldn't really matter what music you play, just playing the instrument should be fun. Maybe she would like some other instrument better, and you could borrow the instrument from a friend or kind musician in your area. (If she really, truly doesn't like flute)


Re: I am looking for certain music    00:49 on Friday, May 29, 2009          

adamrussell
(66 points)
Posted by adamrussell

chermo i do appolagise you diden't buy 2 flutes you have 2 flutes.
But i have to say what a good example your setting for you child, that its ok to break the law and ask others to break the law for you as long as you get what you want.

You may laugh and i'm sure curse me but as a parent you lead by example and its not a good example to teach a child to break the law no matter how small or trivial it may be, just a little food for thought.


Re: I am looking for certain music    05:39 on Friday, May 29, 2009          

jose_luis
(2369 points)
Posted by jose_luis

I abide to the law. Or at least I try.

But note that buying a score provides no license to play the piece in public, even without benefit. In other words, the copyright law protects the creation itself, not (only) the physical or virtual support of it (paper, digital files, CDs or whatever).

Say you are a gifted-ear musician and that you can play Hannah stuff by memory, just listening to the song only once on the radio. No score, no CD, no nothing but your neurones.

Still, you must request permission to the copyright owners to perform such a piece in public.

That is my interpretation of the copyright law. Please comment if somebody disagrees as this is an interesting subject. It is different with older works, prior to 1923. But not Hannah's.

Not necessary to start any fight, of course.


Re: I am looking for certain music    12:51 on Friday, May 29, 2009          

leighthesim
(471 points)
Posted by leighthesim

hannah montana and disney songs are hard to play, trust me- after 3 mouths of private lessons, i could only just manage a few of the disney ones, but if she wants a bit more interesting try this site, http://www.flutegirl.ca/downloads.html , just find the song you want them click the c instrument sheet music, there is some good stuff there- like a whole new world, no hannah montana though- i haven't even seen even a book for flute for hannah montana but if you found a piano vocal book she can play the vocal part, but try that site as there is some good music on there from films and pop songs and stuff like that.


Re: I am looking for certain music    13:53 on Friday, May 29, 2009          

chermo
(13 points)
Posted by chermo

adamrussell, I am in no way telling my daughter what I am doing or would ever encourage her to do anything that breaks the law. I know if someone wanted a copy of a cd that we own but can't afford to buy it then I would just copy it for them. My kids have no idea what I do when they are not home or not in my office. It is a little hard for the law to come find me or anyone else that copies music from CD to make a CD for someone else. I am sure if I had the music someone wanted I would copy it for them and either mail it or email it, doing this once and a while is not going to kill me. I am sure that the people that are copying CD's and selling them is different than giving it away. I believe copywriting is if you are selling it not giving it to a friend. I could be wrong on that though.

To everyone else, thank you for the link to some other free music and everyone elses nicer responses.

I still don't feel what I am asking for is asking anyone to break the law since they are not selling it to me but if I am then just don't respond anymore to this.


Re: I am looking for certain music    22:13 on Friday, May 29, 2009          

oboegirl
(352 points)
Posted by oboegirl

Here is a Hannah Montanna flute book:
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Hannah-Montana-Flute/19010184

You would have to buy it though.

One idea is if your daughter has a birthday comming up soon, you could tell a friend or family member that she would like it for a present. Otherwise, it just wouldn't be right for someone to copy the book and send it to you.


Re: I am looking for certain music    00:01 on Saturday, May 30, 2009          

DanTheMaster
(820 points)
Posted by DanTheMaster

The fine for breaching copyright law is up to $20,000. I know you don't care, and probably won't get caught, but is this stupid piece of music really worth your integrity? If so, I feel sorry for you. Your integrity must not be worth a whole lot. Copying without permission is stealing, plain and simple. I have little tolerance for thieves.


Re: I am looking for certain music    12:03 on Saturday, May 30, 2009          

flutechick101
(72 points)
Posted by flutechick101

I think everyone is being a little harsh. I'm not saying to do something illegal, but I don't think she was asking to make copies of the music. I think she just asked for someone to send her the book if they are done. That's not illegal is it? I really don't know. And also, isn't only illegal if you sell it for profit? That's how it works with burning CD's. I'm just saying. I really don't know much about this stuff but I know it's not necessary to be rude.


Re: I am looking for certain music    15:46 on Saturday, May 30, 2009          

DanTheMaster
(820 points)
Posted by DanTheMaster

Flutechick, if someone sent her a hard, original copy of the music through the mail, then no, it is not illegal. And as to your question about burning CDs, that is not illegal either--as long as you own the music you burned. If you give it to someone else who doesn't own the music, then it is illegal. It may not seem important...and to some people it's not, I suppose. But to me, being honest is one of the most important traits a person has in life. And I stick to my guns when it comes to integrity.


   








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