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question.    20:20 on Sunday, July 05, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post -11 votes
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Re: question.    03:27 on Monday, July 06, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 1 vote

jose_luis
(1978 points)

A hellish being.. (JJK)

This short definition is clear, IMO:
"The practice of deliberately placing inflammatory material on the Internet in order to provoke vehement responses", or a person who does this"

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

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Re: question.    02:44 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post -12 votes
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Re: question.    04:53 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1978 points)

This may be a technical detail, but to sabotage a site by voting negative more than once is not strictly trollish in the general sense that it does harm people and sites but is not promoting (directly) fights or site inflaming. Just a silent, sad site death, if let alone.

I believe that Admin should block the voting feature for a while, until the offender leaves the place.

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I would like to add that to see again a thumbed down post is as simple as clicking on the "+" at the left of it

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Re: question.    05:47 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post -11 votes
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Re: question.    05:55 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post -12 votes
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Re: question.    10:06 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

vampav8trix
(428 points)

It's very sad. I was enjoying some of the threads. It's too bad that there are people out there who are hateful and have no life.

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Re: question.    16:05 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 2 votes

binx
(100 points)

it seems as though the posts that were all closed were troublesome posts. a lot of bickering going on. it is no surprise that someone must have got fed up with the no moderation of the forum and took matters into his/her own hands. just a thought. i'm glad they were closed. i don't want to read it anymore either.

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Re: question.    16:47 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1978 points)

Sorry you took my comment so badly. It was not my intention to apply any standard at all to anybody. I supposed this distinction could be interesting, but I could not suppose you would react to it. I will be more careful next time.

Why not call this crazy guy/girl a blackholer instead of troll? This name has the advantage
of sounding quite close to another word that I believe would describe him/her much better but would be too rough to use here.

You are right in the case of a thumbed down initial post. I think it is a bug in the voting feature, as the complete thread should no disappear so easily.

I suggest we continue to report this problem to Admin, he might be able to correct this or in the worst case, he could disable the voting system.

I also lost my thread on the oldest instrument in humankind. I was not following it any more, but still, I feel this like a little loss. But that's life, virtual or real.



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Re: question.    21:20 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 4 votes

musicman_944
(133 points)

They not only marked down the post, they marked down the first post of a thread - that makes the whole thread disappeared, and you can't simply click (+) to see the thread!! Tell me how you gonna see this thread by clicking (+)?
http://www.8notes.com/f/25_248655.asp


Pyrioni - I'm not sure what problem you are having, but I can see the entire thread just fine (if I click the + signs)...

Everyone - This whole debate about negative votes is just a bunch of nonsense. OK, so after a message gets sufficient negative votes, the forum collapses the message - it's not a big deal. Anyone can just click the + sign if they want to read the collapsed message. It seems to me that the real issue is more about bruised egos that feel they are not popular when they get negative votes. C'mon folks - drop it, move on, and get a life.

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Re: question.    21:30 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 2 votes

piccolotoot
(10 points)

Yes really people. What is all the fuss about. Grow up!

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Re: question.    23:57 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post -3 votes

Micron
(1760 points)

Pyrioni wrote

They not only marked down the post, they marked down the first post of a thread - that makes the whole thread disappeared, and you can't simply click (+) to see the thread!! Tell me how you gonna see this thread by clicking (+)?
http://www.8notes.com/f/25_248655.asp


If I click on http://www.8notes.com/f/25_248655.asp, Pyrioni is correct, the thread no longer exists.

Does it exist for other people?


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Re: question.    05:49 on Thursday, July 09, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

jose_luis
(1978 points)

Micron,

Clicking on the ASP link provided brings me to the thread, though I need to click on the (+) sign to be able to see some posts, particularly the one originating the whole thread.

The problem with the present voting system is a (probable) bug that deletes the thread from the general list, when the first post is thumbed down by enough negative votes. But the thread remains in the (notes server, only that we do not see it any more, unless we know its ASP address.

This should not be so, as an invisible thread in the list is very close to a non-existing one.

Some people with high ordered spirits (and plenty of HD space) seem to keep their own records of the ASP links. This is simple, it only requires not deleting the automatic Forum notifications.

But I delete them because I have to deal with too many messages and my Email client is always overloaded with thousands of stored messages.

BTW,

I have also arrived to the same conclusion as Binx; this person (or people) is/are acting as self-designated "Masked Avenger(s)" who has/ve decided to delete any thread that according to their own criteria do not merit remaining visible.

This is too close to fascist thinking and I do not approve it.

I dislike verbal violence or rough vocabulary in threads as everybody else, but I do not support this extreme censorship.

I also doubt that there is a single person involved; it looks more like a sort of band of friends that have agreed to enforce Netiquette rules by brute force and according to their own criteria. I mean, they decided to moderate the Forum without being requested to do so.

I prefer a non-moderated Forum (or a mildly-moderated as this one) to one strongly / moderated (read: censored). But this is a personal preference and I am not saying that everybody else should agree with it.

The emergence of this -close to- fascist outbreak here is a very bad thing, but quite common everywhere and is not the worst thing I have seen in this world.


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Re: question.    06:55 on Thursday, July 09, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
(1760 points)

Interesting...

If I click on the link I mentioned in my last post it takes me to a thread. But if I click on the same link that I quoted in the same post, then I get "Page cannot be Dislayed"



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Re: question.    06:57 on Thursday, July 09, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
(1760 points)

Jose, I very much doubt that anything you have posted in this forum would be sensored in saxontheweb, which has effective moderation, and no stupid voting-down system.

However personal attack, which is very common in this forum, I think would be.

   





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