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Getting from note to note.    22:20 on Thursday, May 29, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
I am working on Rossini`s "Introduction, Theme and Variations". I am finding it quite easy (all it is is scales, arpeggios etc- and in Bb major (concert), too!) but there is one problem I am having. I am having trouble jumping from C (on the stave) to G (4 lines above. I was wondering if anyone knows of a fingering that will make this easier. I find the "long F" to be very useful, and I was wondering if there was a similar "long G".
Thanks.
PS: Am I the only person in the world who cannot stand Vandoren reeds? I use Rico Grand Concert size 3 1/2, and find them ideal.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    23:37 on Friday, May 30, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
Ah yes, Rossini`s wonderfull Introduction Theme and Variations

I assume the C you are talking about is the 3rd line C. You run into this interval between the C and G in part two of the first variation (the one in triplets) as well as in measure 13 of the coda.

This is the fingering for C:
T R X X X / X X X C-F

This is the standard fingering for G:
T R O X O Db-Bb / O O O Gb-Eb

If you use this, then it is very likely you may have problems getting the G out clean.

Try playing the G like this
T R X O O / X X O Gb-Eb

That is the easiest solution but if you don`t like it, here`s a couple other alternate G fingerings:
T R O X X / X X O Gb-Eb
T R O X O / X O X Gb-Eb

Of course, whenever you`re in the altissimo register, using the Gb/Eb key is optional.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    21:39 on Thursday, June 05, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ClArInEt)
A good way to learn to do difficult jumps is to practice them and other similar jumps over and over(but you probably already knew that)

ALOMARvelous12, how does that fingering code work. I couldn`t translate it.

I play Vandoren 3 reeds, but I also like Rico 3 1/2 reeds. I find them just a little stiffer. What is it that you don`t like about Vandoren?



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Re: Getting from note to note.    18:43 on Friday, June 06, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
T - thumb key

R - register key

X - closed hole

O - open hole

Eb-Bb - right hand index finger key that is used to play low Eb (without register key) or high Bb (with the register)

Gb-Eb - right hand pinkey key used to play those two notes.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    18:44 on Friday, June 06, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
oops, in my first post i meant "1st space C" instead of "1st line C"

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Re: Getting from note to note.    18:45 on Friday, June 06, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
oops, in my first post i meant "3rd space C" instead of "3rd line C"

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Re: Getting from note to note.    22:12 on Saturday, June 07, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
ALOMARvelous- I realise that you meant 3rd space C- Don`t worry about making that mistake.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    22:14 on Saturday, June 07, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
CLARInet- I don`t like Vandoren reeds because I just about kill myself getting a sound out of the damn things, and then it is a really bad sound anyway. With Rico Grand Concert, I can sound like a good professional player without too much effort.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    20:55 on Sunday, June 08, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
I myself is a user of vandoren reeds. you`re right though, the break-in process is long and tough.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    01:48 on Monday, June 09, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
Yes, long and tough and not worth the effort.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    21:45 on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
ALOMARvelous12- I was reading your post about the piece in discussion. Did you ever get that horrible run in the coda? I have almost got it but it doesn`t come out properly every time. I had the same sort of problems with high notes early last year, so I moved up a reed size and that helped, so I`m thinking of doing that now.
Did you see my post about the Martinu Sonatina? Could you help me with that? I am playing it at an audition later this year (along with the Rossini and the 2nd movement of Spohr`s 3rd concerto) and I don`t want it to seem like I don`t know anything about the piece.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    12:17 on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(ALOMARvelous12)
Which "horrible run"? I`m guessing the one in measure 36 of the Maggiore Coda?

I`m not sure which edition you own, but in my Southern Music Company edition, it goes like a chromatic scale in sixteenth from C (2 lines above the staff) up to A. then it comes down to G, F, E, D, then up to F, then A, and finally G in the next measure before it skips down two octaves and goes up an accending scale.

This is the most difficult part of the entire piece. I really can`t think of any way to teach this other than practicing it slowly. The biggest problem part is the three notes last notes of measure 36 D-F-A.

I don`t know about yours, but my edition has a much much much easier ossia passage. Instead of the one I described above, this one has:

C-B-C-D-D#-E-F-F#-G-F#-Fnat-E-Fnat-D-A(line above staff)-B-C

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Re: Getting from note to note.    20:51 on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
Your edition has the same run and ossia passage as mine does.
I have been practising it slowly, and I can get it 9 times out of 10.

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Re: Getting from note to note.    00:33 on Saturday, June 21, 2003 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes
(Rachel)
I seem to have got the idea of the leap between C-G. I`ve dealt with 99% of all the difficulties of the piece, now all I have to do is polish it up.

   

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