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How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner

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How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    18:45 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

actinvlp
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Is there anyway to look at an oboe and tell if it is a beginner or intermediate oboe? I know an intermediate oboe can play low B and F, but I don't know how to know that just by looking at one.

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    16:14 on Friday, January 16, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

oboegirl
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If there is no bell key then it is a beginner oboe. Beginner oboes usually have two holes on the bell that you have to cover with your knees to play low Bb. Beginner oboes usually don't have a left hand F key either.


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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    19:45 on Friday, January 16, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
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Oboegirl: Yeah, most beginner oboe's don't have Left F, but they all should! Ah, I don't know how people live without left F!!! At my local music store the oboist made the store only carry oboe's with left F's for rental and sale. I still can't believe some oboe's don't have it. It is a must!!!!!!!

I don't really know the difference between a beginner and intermediate but probably an intermediate model would have wood body, open holed b, a, g, e, and maybe split D. Deffinitly Left F, low Bb, Forked F vent and maybe the extra C key (banana key?).

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    10:07 on Saturday, January 17, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

oboegirl
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yes, I am having to use a rental beginner oboe while mine gets fixed, and I keep reaching over to play left F, but its not there!!

I agree with canadian, I have never seen a wood student oboe. However, I currently own an intermediate oboe that is made out of plastic. I think the best way to tell is to look for keys that are "missing" like the bell key and left F. Also, some beginner oboes don't have a resonance key. To check for this, finger forked F. if you have to add the Eb key to make it sound in tune, then there is no resonance key.

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    08:50 on Monday, January 19, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

actinvlp
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Thanks! This helps alot! I appreciate the responses!

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    15:50 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

contra448
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There are other things besides the amount of keywork which distinguish different levels of oboe - the higher the grade the more hand finishing should be done eg tuning of individual notes; the bore might be different giving a different sound. But of course these are not obvious.

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    23:22 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Vallemar2
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L hand F is not a must but nice to have; most intermediate oboes have them anymore

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    00:50 on Friday, January 23, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
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I'm sorry but I really think that left F is a must. It is essential to learn the proper fingerings for passages. And for notes like D to F or Eb to F you can't always use Forked F. Left F is a must and to play oboe well today you need to use left F.


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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    13:25 on Friday, January 23, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Vallemar2
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I played for many years on an oboe without the L hand F; never noticed the absence. Now I have the L hand F and often forget to use it.
Once you get used to it it's not a big deal; however I agree with you that certain passages are easier. Clearly not impossible.

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    16:05 on Friday, January 23, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Vallemar2
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...also the forked F is used in just the situations you describe: before and after: e flat, d, c sharp and low c,b, bflat
What I can't imagine is playing the low b flat by covering a hole with your knees; my oboe isn't that close to my knees when I play

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    10:11 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

ojoe
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even though i am a begginer i have a left f and bell holes but that might just be because im using an old oboe from somebody whos been playing for 10 years

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    11:07 on Monday, February 16, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

iluvoboe565
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ha, i didn't know that u covered the two holes with ur knees on a beginner oboe... i'll have to tell my friend (whose oboe has like no keys... its quite ridiculous...)


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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    19:23 on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

secondoboe
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I looooooove the left F key. I probably use it more than the regular one. hate forked F though... yuck...

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    00:32 on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
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Personally I enjoy regular F the most. Left F is a far second, it's awkward for me. Forked F is only used if I absolutly need to use it.

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Re: How to tell an intermediate oboe from a beginner    08:51 on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Vallemar2
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depends on the oboe and the player marcel tabuteau liked the forked F!
Mine sounds fine; I have a good professional instrument and I like the fingering; there are places it is very useful. On my intermediate oboe the forked F isn't quite as nice even with the E flat
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