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Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.

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Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    19:35 on Monday, August 17, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

ayco
(32 points)

I'm currently in the transition of finding a new oboe teacher since my teacher left the city. I was wondering if I could get someones help in the mean time. When I play in the low register, the notes start to tremelo or vibrato and I can prevent it. It starts out slow then speeds up. Can someone tell me how I can prevent it?

Thanks very much. I appreciate your help

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    22:25 on Monday, August 17, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

OboeLover4Life
(121 points)

There might be a couple of reasons why this is happening....

I think it might be your lack of support, i.e. forcing of air. I've had this problem as well on my low C.
The trick that helped me get better support technique was having the sensation of holding back the breath more so then the feeling of blowing out air.

I've noticed the lower you go on the Oboe, the more air you need. This actually applies the other way around as well.
So I tried to blow more air....BUT I forgot my support. What happened next is that I forced out more air then I needed to and ran out of enough air needed to create a steady and focused airstream. I ended up having a choppy air current trying to use the air that I had left which was the source of my tremelo. So the solution was kind of simple (though the process wasn't xD), retrain myself to use proper support. Here is a very very brief explanation of it:



After some serious long tone practice, I got the hang of the energy needed for each note and the tremelo (FINALLY!!!!) disappeared.

One trick to seeing if you're using incorrect support.

1. Blow up a balloon: Notice how when you blow with support that you can keep blowing for a long while. Meanwhile, when you don't, you can only blow in short bursts with little effect even though it feels like you're using a lot of air.

And again, good old long tones help tons and can reveal your progress!!!

Hope any of this helps.




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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    23:16 on Monday, August 17, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
(903 points)

If you are getting "waves" in your sound esp. in the lower register you may have a leaky key. Try a suction test to see if your bottom joint is leaking. Take just your bottom joint, plug the bottom with your hand and suck all the air out. If you hear air rushing in you've got a leak. Do you have a Forked F vent on your oboe? It's usually the key that comes out of adjustment and causes leaks.

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    03:47 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

contra448
(685 points)

Canadian's diagnosis gets my vote. Another common cause of this sort of problem is the E-flat key not closing due to the LH little finger keys getting knocked out of alignment.

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    11:49 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

ayco
(32 points)

It may be a leaky key but I'm not entirely sure. I find that it sometimes happens and sometimes not. It also changes with different types of reeds. I'm not entirely sure if it's my support, I have a feeling it's to do with a physical error in the oboe or the reed.

Thanks everyone for helping. I'm still trying to figure out the problem. Any other suggestions would be great

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    14:35 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

OboeLover4Life
(121 points)

If it changes with different types of reeds then maybe it is the reeds...Are they handmade? Even if they are maybe the maker is not very consistent...Also some Oboes can be very reed temperamental and need a very good reed to play even decently.

If your Oboe is a cheapo model it might be like Canadian/Contra said and that there are keys leaking or the mechanism isn't working properly.

I'm also very quick to blame myself or other outside sources (too cold air conditioning for example) before I blame my instrument or reed. Is why I suggested the support thing.

Idk just throwing ideas at ya.


PS: The link didn't work properly the last time I posted. Here it is again:

http://completevocaltechnique.com/?q=en/Vocal-Technique/The-3-overall-principles

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    21:13 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

oboegirl
(352 points)

I have one particular reed that makes me sound like that when I play middle c or lower. Try playing with a few different reeds and see if that makes a difference. If that doesn's make any difference, try taking the oboe to a repair shop to check and see if there are any leaks. It might not be a bad idea to take the instrument in anyways if it hasn't been adjusted in a while. Oboes should be adjusted at least once a year, or more if you play alot. Good luck!

Abigail

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    22:09 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
(903 points)

"If your Oboe is a cheapo model it might be like Canadian/Contra said and that there are keys leaking or the mechanism isn't working properly."

This does just apply to "cheapos" but even professional models. My loree's Forked F vent was leaking and I have this exact same problem.

I agree with oboegirl. Get it to repair tech and get it checked out. Most repair techs will give you an estimate free, so you'll know what needs to be done at what cost.

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    23:13 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

OboeLover4Life
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lol Canadian. I meant Beginner models are more likely to have mechanical problems.
My fault for terrible wording.....

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    23:41 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Canadian
(903 points)

Ah! No problem!

Beginner models do seem to have many technical problems. I played an Ugly Yamaha 411 with way to many problems for an outdoor concert once. The high D's were over 1/4 tone sharp! Ouch!

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    10:37 on Friday, August 21, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

oboegirl
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The first time I went to music camp with my student selmer oboe, I was in the repair shop practically ever day!

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Re: Trouble with low notes. Notes played below F3 plays with an non-induced tremelo or vibrato.    11:41 on Friday, August 21, 2009 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

contra448
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All oboes - whether student or pro models - do go out of adjustment. Pads & silencer corks compress over time. Especially with cork pads only a very slight change will cause a leak - this does tend to show up first on the F vent.

   

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