Help with Upper-Register, please!!!

    
Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    14:33 on Monday, September 3, 2007          

JerryG
(3 points)
Posted by JerryG

Hi y'all...I'm the primary trumpet player in my High School's Marching, Concert and Jazz band. I'm 15 years young and need a little help. I can slur up to a G above a G above the staff...Ya know (above the staff: G, A, B, C, D, E, F, G...that one)...and I would like some advice on how to reach the "super-c" above that. I have the star spangled banner for a solo, and would like to be able to hit that C before the years is out. And also, could I get any help on how to shake (like Drum Corps players) and how to triple-tounge. I'm good enough to double-tounge regularly, but i dont know the correct syllables to use when triple-tounging. Thanks for your help!


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    14:51 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007          

jackie09
(105 points)
Posted by jackie09

Well, first of all lets clear up what you mean.

when you say super c, do you mean this one? one leger line above? OR the one way up there?

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Because, if you are playing the banner in the register I think you are that seems very untastefull. Almost mocking it.

It sounds like you already have a good range, please don't obsess over it, the most important skill to develop in high school is a resonant SOUND.

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If you can double tounge you can triple tounge......a lot of people actually find triple tounging easier.....I do.

da-ga-da
ta-ka-ta
I personaly find da-ga-da works better for me.......but use whatever works for you.


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    21:18 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007          

cantevergiveitup
(68 points)

Actually, triple tonguing should be ta-ta-ka, and you need to practice it about a zillion times accenting the "ka". Over 40 years of playing, kiddo, and I still have to practce those basics regularly.

As far as the increasing the range goes, it takes consistent, daily practice going both direction - including down into the pedal tones. Someplace in one of my posts a while back I shared a couple of excellent exercises for developing the embochure.

If you're inetested, drop me a line.

On the drum corps "shake". It's just a violent vibrato, that's all. (I was playing in drum corps in the 60's when it first became a "thing".)


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    14:41 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007          

jackie09
(105 points)
Posted by jackie09

In reply to cantevergiveup:

I did forget to mention that you CAN use ta-ta-ka, because I never use it.

It really doesn't matter which you use, some people might think it sounds better in some situations.

I may be only 16, but I am getting my information from my teacher who is a university trumpet proffesor.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with using ta-ka-ta.

What makes you think ta-ta-ka is somehow better?


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    14:56 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007          

jackie09
(105 points)
Posted by jackie09

I am NOT directing this at you JerryG but, it just bugs me when I hear a high school student with a insane high range with bad sound on a schlike 14A4a, and all they can do is hit the notes, can't even make them sound nice and are completely lacking in the much more important aspects of trumpet playing it is just so typical.

I would much rather hear a player with amazing sound and technique over a player with only range.

Again Jerry I am NOT directing this at you, this is just my past experience, I hope you are not one of the players I am talking about.

Just think about this........if you walk in for a college audition and say "I can play a super C!" and then play it, but then play the audition music terribly, you will not get in, BUT if you have a super c and are a well rounded player, well then awesome.

Since you are 15, you have probably been playing for around five years?

And you are almost at a super c?
I think if you have this kind of range at five years that the only thing you focus on in your practice is range, is it?
I may be wrong......I dought it though.

The trumpet is a beautiful instrument....play it beautifully.....it it not a squeak toy.


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    16:15 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007          

JerryG
(3 points)
Posted by JerryG

for the first comment, i meant the HIGH one..cuz if you go onto myspace oyoutube, there's a video that had Scott Dean from the Blue Devils playin it, and it sounds SO COOL. I practice on everything, but range was a major concern thru middle school, so i'm tryin to focus on tounging and style more than range now...and about the shake, thanks. I'vwe always heard it's a mix between a hard vibrato and a lip trill, but thanks anyways. ~Jerry G


Re: Help with Upper-Register, please!!!    20:11 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007          

cantevergiveitup
(68 points)

jackie09,
Try "Flight of the Bumble Bee" your way - won't happen.

No disrespect for your teacher, kiddo, but there are a LOT of tunes where the "ta-ta-ka" flows naturally from what you're already playing through the same measure. Try it a bit and you might be surprised.


   




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