Edwards instruments are owned and produced by Getzen, and the Getzen custom (3000) series all come with Thayer valves from the Edwards. Holton makes a few bass trombones and they sell for fairly good prices, used. I played one, and it sounded quite good. The Conn horns play more like big tenor trombones. They have a very warm sound that would work well on a classical trombone solo, but I don`t think they have a dark enough sound to play actual bass parts, but you`d have to try them yourself to see. There are also a number of older (`60s and`70s) single rotor basses around. These could turn out to be really nice instruments if a second rotor wasn`t required.

Try the 5b or 6b good horn big sound hard to find. Single rotor though. I do base work with a getzin and love it.

CONN 88H-CL`s RULE OVER ALL ELSE, BACH SUCKS! bottom line get a sell the bach and buy a 88H-CL

dude my brother has a con and i have a rath my brother is in college and im in 10th and he said thathe rather have my rath than his conn

Edwards, by far the best. Other than Bach, everything else is pretty much crap. Personally, if I didn`t get my Edwards, I would have gone with a Bach 42. After years and years of research, (about 6 years), this is where I settled. No question for me. But, it`s also personal for every person.

When you go out looking, play everything you can get your hands on. Don`t look at prices while testing, some might turn you off. Check out Edwards, Bach, Shire, and Conn (a distant 4th, even with the Lindberg valve(crap)). Everything else is substandard compared to these. But then, I am a classical player. You also have to bend your choices towards the style of music you will play. I don`t use the same horn for classical that I do in jazz, or my funk band, or my old ska band, or back in my marching days. It all matters on what you end up liking and what you will be using it for.

you must be a blind imbesel if u think edwards is the best to make it short and simple edwards is a slege hammer horn

and i think the age of thoes horns are over and i cant beleive you said go with a bach they are so inconsistent you have to surch threw millions to get what you want o yes and edwards was started by shires but the person that started it went to shire but i go with you on conn and shire thogh but bach heck no edwards deecent for a bass but rath trombone bass`s and trigger and tenner tare up on anything edwards has to give

Wow guy, wow.

I`m just a freshman in HS right now & I`m currently looking for a Getzen trombone. I hear from so many people online and my friends how great it is and blah blah blah. My friend Josh, who is a Junior on Bass, says he would like to get an Edwards trombone `cause those are real good as well. I haven`t heard the sound of a Getzen bone, but I read it`s has a real nice dark sound and such a great tone.
I`ve read over over people`s opinions that bach isn`t all that great... my own trombone is a Holton, I haven`t touched it for months since I`m using the school`s trig-silver yamaha bone. And it aint so great. But I guess it was just alright. I love the trombone I currently have, but again it isn`t the greatest...

I WANT A GETZEN! =P

.......read some great posts here,for what it.s worth.........after years of playing Martin "Urbie Green" horns ,3 Kings ,1 2b Silver Sonic and 2 3B`S ,2 Courtois large Bore ,all of which I deemed mediocre at best,I have at last found a truly "great" Trombone.
Jerome Callet "Jazz" horn in beautiful Silver Plate over Copper.
Exquisite resonance and Tone ,slots superbly and carries powerfully when required but also ppp better than any of my Urbie Greens.

It is no easy task finding your ideal horn,I have waited 30 odd years to experience this one.......I would say however that no one make makes a great instrument they are all so individual!!!


regards

Derek

I have seen thease on ebay for a hundred bucks. Are they any good? I know they use the "venturi" lead pipe and have heard 2 good reports. Id like more info though.

They use the venturi leadpipe? Um... all trombones do. Here ya go:

The leadpipe is not a straight piece of tubing. Rather, it is slightly tapered, hence it is sometimes called the "venturi" - although the mouthpiece and the leadpipe would constitute a venturi. The leadpipe can, and often does, change the way a horn sounds or how it "feels." It affects the tone, timbre, range and sound "color".

Note: the word venturi has a common meaning and a technical meaning and can be confusing. The more common meaning refers to the leadpipe (sometimes called a mouthpipe) section of the trombone in the slide. Venturi technically defined: a tube or tubing that is a conduit consisting of a long hollow object (usually cylindrical) used to conduct gases. So technically, the trombone venturi would start with the mouthpiece and continue with the leadpipe. But it is used commonly as a synonym for the leadpipe.


As for the Jerome Callet Jazz Trombone, looks like a pretty rare thing. I would love to hear how it sounds. Just did a little reading on Jerome Callet, sounds pretty interesting for lead jazz work....

I`ve been reading all the posts in this Forum and it`s been very educational and eye-opening. We are now shopping for the next step up for our son, a 7th grader who is in both Jazz Band and Symphonic. He`s been playing a student model Getzen, but now needs a better quality instrument, a tenor trombone with F attachment, small to medium bore. His teacher plays a King 2B, highly recommends it for jazz work, says it has a brighter sound than the King 3B, although he thinks the King 3B is a solid instrument. Any opinions? Also, what do you recommend for an instrument to take him through high school? He wants a versatile instrument that can perform well in both jazz and symphonic settings. Finally, I was reading the opinions about lacquer vs. no lacquer.... would we be better off without lacquer? Thanks for any and all recommendations.

If he will be using the same trombone for playing in jazz band and in symphonic band, I would recommend a 3B with the F-attachment. The 2B would just be too small for symphonic band playing.

yup

Hey so I think you might want to look at The getzen 1047f it is a good horn a little darker than the 3b (for me) and if he has played a getzen already it will feel good switching to a pro getzen. Take him to a shop and let him play for an hour or 2 a bunch of diferent horns and he`ll fine one he likes.