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mad_cow
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i've seen alot of pros who can play (what sounds like) a double pedal Bb on a tennor trombone. can any one hear play it. if you can, i would love to know how you do it?
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musicman
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I'm only a sophomore in high school and I can.
Although its not very clear, wouldn't ever use it for anything other than warming up when doing Remington exercises. Its very out of tune and a big fake tone--that's the only way I know how (and with the trigger)
But I just worked my way down from a pedal Bb and made sure my tone was consistent and strong before going to the next note. (which in my case made it very easy to get the other notes after you have the pedal Bb very strong--that is one at a time Bb, A, etc...) Now thats how I was able to do it, great note to go down to when warming down too.
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euphobone
(51 points)
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I play double pedal Bb in second position. I don't know why, but that's where it seems to pop out the best. It's not really a note on the instrument...at least that's what I have come to believe.
It's kind of like playing F,E,Eb,D,Db,C, and B) below the staff WITHOUT the F attachment engaged. It doesn't sound too great and it's not very practical, but it's possible<---good flexibility work-out...makes F attachment work better!!!
You're just creating incidental pitches between the 2nd partial (low Bb,A,Ab,G,Gb,F,E) and the fundamental (Pedal Bb,A,Ab,G,Gb,F,E).
The fundamental is technically the lowest note on any given length of tubing. Anthing else is just produced with sheer will and very relaxed chops.
-Raul
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In fact I used to start on pedal Bb and do a chromatic remington exercise down to Pedal E all in first position.
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Erik
(135 points)
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"In fact I used to start on pedal Bb and do a chromatic remington exercise down to Pedal E all in first position. "
Lip flex exercises, awesome. That one is still part of my daily warm up.
And you are correct. The single pedal Bb is the lowest note that exists in first position on a Bb trombone. It's the fundamental, nothing exists below it. You can lip it down, that's how you can get down to the "double pedal", although the only way to play a real double pedal Bb is with a first AND second trigger.
That is a great air and lip flexibility exercise though. Star on low Bb and go chromatically down as far as you can go, through the trigger F range, through single pedals, trigger pedals, and then through lipped down double pedals and double trigger pedals. It takes a hell of a lot of lip and air control to get a sound out down there, but it does wonders for the rest of your range.
And it works as an amazing warm down as well. That's my daily warm down.
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mad_cow
(50 points)
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i was just wondering how to do a fake double pedal Bb. i already can play to the extreme low range of the tennor (doun to a really low c), using real notes. but i didn't know wat position to try a fake double Bb in. i'll gice trigger second a try.
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euphobone
(51 points)
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ACTUALLY...I use regular second position...WITHOUT the F attachment (trigger). Sorry for not clarifying.
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Erik
(135 points)
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I play it in first, no trigger. That's basically what it is, a lipped down single pedal all the way to a double pedal. I do a lot of lip flexibility work down there, so I keep the positions straight with the true note, but realistically, since you are just lipping a note down, you can play it in any position.
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euphobone
(51 points)
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Yes...this is true. the wonderful world of low brass....endless highs and endless lows.
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