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shoulder rests    19:57 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

strathspey
(38 points)

I have read that you should not use shoulder rests because it messes up your technique and tone production. I don't see how that could be. Does anyone know what this means? I've been using a shoulder rest, and it seems so much easier than without it. But I certainly don't want to ruin my technique...

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Re: shoulder rests    00:51 on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

arabians207
(196 points)

Everyone I know uses a shoulder rest, including my violin teacher! It definitely does not ruin technique! I personally could never play without one!

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Re: shoulder rests    18:11 on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

blackhellebore89
(151 points)

I have always played with one, and my teacher and everybody i know! If they don't have one then they use a wad of material or a covered sponge or something wedged under the violin to keep it at the right angle!
maybe if you are fiddling you don't need one (i mean proper fiddling!) but personally i would use one or a sponge or something, i started playing with a sponge.

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Re: shoulder rests    00:23 on Thursday, June 26, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Ragatopp
(120 points)

I've haven't used one so far. I don't really see the point at the moment as I have no trouble without one, but I might change my mind later on.

I've never heard about it affecting anything and all the professionals I have seen use one.

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Re: shoulder rests    01:17 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Fiddol_Freek
(6 points)

I tip my hat to whoever plays without a shoulder rest.

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Re: shoulder rests    02:24 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

EnigmusJ4
(42 points)

Haha, my youth orch's old conductor dragged his violin out on occasion to demonstrate a passage or two. Sits 4th chair in the local symphony and his shoulder rest is a sponge pad about a half-an-inch thick held in place by a rubber band. I think it can be preference, really, but you should always ask a teacher or local authority on the violin. Everybody's body is different. Maybe some people don't need them, maybe they make it difficult for other people, and most importantly, if you use one, you're often using the WRONG one. I prefer Kuhn, myself, but everybody is different and what works for one person may hinder another. That may be the reason your source advised against them in the first place. Variety matters.

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Re: shoulder rests    03:23 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Alessia2
(5 points)

As far as Iīve seen, only some very old men play without the shoulder rest, as they havenīt had any in their youth when started violin playing. Iīve seen close one old master, and he lifts his shoulder a bit to keep the violin in balance. I suppose it makes easily problems with body if you have to replace the shoulder rest like that.

I have always thought shoulder rest is created to keep the violin on itīs place without physical effort. But of course all people have a bit different body and nothing fits to everyone.

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Re: shoulder rests    16:11 on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Zevida
(10 points)

I've never met anyone who didn't use a shoulder rest. I sometimes tune my instrument without the shoulder rest, but I always put it on before playing. It makes you more relaxed to play. You don't have to lift up your shoulder to hold the violin up which can lead to problems after years of playing.

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Re: shoulder rests    01:33 on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

lah_lei
(47 points)

i didn't use a shpulder rest when i started out but it left a bruise so i now i'm using one and i can't play well without it....

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Re: shoulder rests    22:41 on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

theTromboni
(119 points)

when I started out I used a sponge, and then I got a shoulder rest, but when I upgraded to a full sized violin I didn't get a shoulder rest right away. I learned to play without it, and was uncomfortable with one. Then I joined another student orchestra in school and our teach demanded that everyone use a shoulder rest. I bought one that I like, and, though it took me about a month of playing every day to get used to it, I believe it aids in things like shifting and vibrato. They are both a blessing and a curse - they improve your position, but they are a nuisanse because most models fall off constantly and you have to place them very particularly on the instrument. I am the only person I know who can play well without one, and I have never heard the viewpoint you have expressed- have one or not. Whatever's comfortable to you.

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Re: shoulder rests    19:04 on Thursday, July 17, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tessellation
(41 points)

I used one when I first started back in high school. When I went back to playing many years later, I played on my own and didn't use one. Now that I'm in regular lessons, I've started using one again and can't really play without it. I think it's all a matter of what's comfortable for you and what you get used to.

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Re: shoulder rests    06:20 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

sirdeltalot
(8 points)

I find a sponge much more helpful. Shoulder rests tend to drag the violin round in front of you which i suppose does affect your technique. There is that shoulder est you can get which goes over your should which certainy keeps the fiddle in the right place but restricts your freedom slightly.
I think you should use whatever feels most natural.
Iz

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Re: shoulder rests    07:52 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Maggini
(2 points)

I've played the violin with a shoulder rest ever since I started. Only recently I have been experimenting by playing without one. At first, it just felt un-natural. And whenever I would come back down from a high position on the violin it would pull it from my neck and I would have to physically clench my shoulder to stop it. After a bit of practise I can now play without a shoulder rest and shift back down the violin easily. I think it is an asset to learn to play without one as it free's up your shoulder space and allows a more free, less tense movement. Also it forces you to hold the violin lighter, releasing tension.

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Re: shoulder rests    14:42 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

davisal771
(60 points)

I don't know anyone who plays without a shoulder rest. How could it possibly mess up your tone?

   

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