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why violists?(frustrated ranting)    21:49 on Friday, August 04, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Violahead
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It sucks to be a violist. Have you ever been transporting your viola and people say "so you play violin"? It is SO frustrating (although one guy asked my friend if she played bass while carrying her violin). You get important parts that require perfect intonation because you have the third of the chord yet get mocked for having an "easy part". Although second violinists get more time in the limelight than violists, they get stuck with almost equally demanding parts.
At my church, EVERY TIME I PLAY A SOLO I SAY "I WILL BE PLAYING ... FOR SOLO VIOLA", YET THEY CONSTANTLY SAY "YOU PLAY THE VIOLIN WELL, KEEP IT UP". If you say to a stranger, "I play viola, not violin" they say oh dissapointedly. It's even more annoying when you tape a sign to your case that says "Viola, not Violin" and people still ask if you play violin. Viola is the only instrument that doesn't have a style or genre to go with so people can recognize them. Violinists have fiddle music (I think of violin=Classical/jazz,fiddle=folk music), bassists have jazz, and let's be serious who would mistake a cello(people usually don't think of name right away). People have asked me if I played guitar, sax, violin, and two more that I can't think of right away. Some violists are down right annoying. I have had stand partners who wait for me to start playing before they start playing, who don't give me enough shoulder room because they don't hold up the instrument right, and violists that are beginners playing on metalic violas talking about how I, the principal violist of said orchestra, sounds bad. I understand that every musician is allowed to have a ditzy day once in a while but don't sit back and not practice EVERYDAY(I understand every person with a section partrner experiences this regularly). Some people have even called the viola an oversized violin, but the first instrument played between the chin and collarbone was viola-sized. It is more difficult to get one's hand on an antique viola because even a smaller number of them exist than other instruments. Modern instruments aren't bad though because much of the viola's repetopire is 20th century music. Composers who PLAYED the viola include Mozart, Bach, Paganini, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Stamitz(viola virtuoso), Hindemith, Rebecca Clark, and others.
Although it's good sometimes, it sucks to be a violist.



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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    20:42 on Saturday, August 05, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

violadave
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Violahead, If you love the sound you're making, then you don't really need any other reason to play viola. But it's tough when you don't get your due-- especially when you're paying your dues all the time. I'm kind of glad I read your post because I 've been going thru some negative thoughts and feelings lately- not about the viola-- but other stuff-- and reading your post I was reminded that these are really not problems that exist anywhere but inside one's own head. For instance if someone mistakes your viola for a violin your totally welcome to ignore their mistake--
fact is, most people who aren't string players can't tell the difference. From their point of view there is no difference.
But your reaction to their mistake they can tell a lot about! This common error could be your oppurtunity to kindly educate them for a few minutes if it pleases you to talk with them. If not, you could be pleased to know something they don't and since you do play the violin-- (just about violist can!)-- you're not being dishonest really in choosing to ignore the error-- just polite.

I like the idea of the sign on the case- that's a good idea. I think I might do that-- paint it on in white with big bold brush strokes that you can see a mile away.

Best Wishes,
VD
ps: I wish I played in an orchestra!


It sucks to be a violist. Have you ever been transporting your viola and people say "so you play violin"? It is SO frustrating (although one guy asked my friend if she played bass while carrying her violin). You get important parts that require perfect intonation because you have the third of the chord yet get mocked for having an "easy part". Although second violinists get more time in the limelight than violists, they get stuck with almost equally demanding parts.
At my church, EVERY TIME I PLAY A SOLO I SAY "I WILL BE PLAYING ... FOR SOLO VIOLA", YET THEY CONSTANTLY SAY "YOU PLAY THE VIOLIN WELL, KEEP IT UP". If you say to a stranger, "I play viola, not violin" they say oh dissapointedly. It's even more annoying when you tape a sign to your case that says "Viola, not Violin" and people still ask if you play violin. Viola is the only instrument that doesn't have a style or genre to go with so people can recognize them. Violinists have fiddle music (I think of violin=Classical/jazz,fiddle=folk music), bassists have jazz, and let's be serious who would mistake a cello(people usually don't think of name right away). People have asked me if I played guitar, sax, violin, and two more that I can't think of right away. Some violists are down right annoying. I have had stand partners who wait for me to start playing before they start playing, who don't give me enough shoulder room because they don't hold up the instrument right, and violists that are beginners playing on metalic violas talking about how I, the principal violist of said orchestra, sounds bad. I understand that every musician is allowed to have a ditzy day once in a while but don't sit back and not practice EVERYDAY(I understand every person with a section partrner experiences this regularly). Some people have even called the viola an oversized violin, but the first instrument played between the chin and collarbone was viola-sized. It is more difficult to get one's hand on an antique viola because even a smaller number of them exist than other instruments. Modern instruments aren't bad though because much of the viola's repetopire is 20th century music. Composers who PLAYED the viola include Mozart, Bach, Paganini, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Stamitz(viola virtuoso), Hindemith, Rebecca Clark, and others.
Although it's good sometimes, it sucks to be a violist.




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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    19:27 on Sunday, August 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Violahead
(21 points)

I'm not complaining about it because I like the dark sound I can pull out of my viola rather than the bright violin or assertive cello. The viola describes me more than any other instrument because of my quiet, calm, so-calm-its-annoying way. When I feel perfectly normal, I feel perfectly boring. I either am very happy or extremely depressed (nasal and bright A or dark and shadowy C). As the title would suggest, someone just pushed my last button with the "you play violin?" stuff.

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    19:40 on Sunday, August 06, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Violahead
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aw yeah. my viola is a student model viola made by samuel eastman. It has a very bright upper register that is also very clear, almost violin e like. The lower register is however a little fuzzy(I probably need to change strings). It is a 15.5. Sadly, I have long arms and need like a 16.5. I tried one at this place in downtown Chicago but i forgot the name (the website is whlee.com). The C String on the model I tried was so dark. Almost cello-ish quality. Bad thing, the price. I think that one was like 1800 bucks though.

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    03:31 on Sunday, October 08, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Maiksch
(5 points)

I really understand the problem. I know many people who have never heard of a viola before when you tell them about it. And I also know a lot of people who ask me why I do not play the violin or cello... or if I am not fast enough on them for the orchstra...
Even my mum sometimes says, though she knows that I play the viola, that I am playing the guitar. I cannot understand it and it really annoys me a lot..

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    15:38 on Monday, October 09, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Penny
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I don't play a string intrument. But I do research alot of musicology and music theory. And I believe the violas have a very important part in an orchestra. The viola seems to harmonize the violins with the cellos. It seems that without the violas, there would be a rather large gap in between the two and would throw the entire string portion of the orchestra off balance.

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    18:41 on Saturday, December 09, 2006 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bandandorchestra
geek

Well shoot if you think thats bad when i was in seventh grade my bus driver called my viola a TUBA!!! A TUBA!!! how can you get those mixed up!!! Two different families.lol but she very musically stupid...i wanted to call her stupid. but i bit my tounge

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    16:10 on Monday, January 08, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

talentedxMUSICIA
N

soooooo true!! omg i hate it when people ask me how long i've been playing the viola

but it's not as bad because i do play the violin too, but i always correct them when they're wrong
=)

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correction: i hate it when people ask me how long i've been playing the violin
typo srry

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    13:02 on Thursday, January 18, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

agnipartene
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I don't see why people deagree with viola.. sound a little bit diffrent but is also so nice to hear. I love both in fact
I want to hear more viola composition.. Have you heard about Edvin Marton? I love this guys..is so cooollll

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    14:14 on Saturday, March 03, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

violakid13
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ive been playing viola for just over a year and am grade4/5, im 13 (year 8)and live in england. it is sooooooooooooooo annoying when either people dont no what a viola is or think its a violin, or they think im really posh, or that i play the violin but am calling it the wrong name!!! i am the only viola in my school (i have lessons with a violin teacher-she plays viola too)so in orchestra i play violin music VERY ANNOYING!!! sometimes they write me a part in alto clef how much is a 16" viola? i have a school one at the moment which is ok but not brilliant sounding and my parents are thinking of buying me one

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    17:28 on Monday, March 05, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

violaguy
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The person makes my viola well Andreas Eastman makes it Its a model 405 with a poplar back becuase i liked it and Strad. used it one most of his violas and cellos

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why violists?(frustrated ranting)    21:22 on Friday, March 23, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

crazyredhead
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I hate having to constently explain to people what the difference is between a viola and a violin its rather annoying

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    21:48 on Saturday, March 31, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

bleachyum
(4 points)

Actually, a lot of violinists are learning to play viola, why?


well, there's not enough violas(endangered!), so conductors will come rip your door off and literally go on their knees and beg you to come to their orchestra :]...

So if your really good at viola, you'll have no problem finding an orchestra to play in

violins are over-populated, agreed?

and yes i do hate how people say "oh, you play the violin?" or "viola? What's that?"

ignorant people...



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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    18:43 on Monday, May 21, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

elisabeth_rb
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When someone asks if my baby is a violin, I just say, 'No, I'm a gangster!'

Actually, what bugs me more is when people repeatedly call her a v-eye-ola, instead of veeeee-ola! If they don't know and get it wrong first time, OK, but when they keep on insisting, that gets my goat a tad.

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Re: why violists?(frustrated ranting)    16:39 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

okyourabeast
(7 points)

I actually love explaining to people what instrument I play.

"Is that a violin?"

"Nope, that's my viola. I'm not like the 40,000,000 other violinists in the world"

But yes I do agree I have this problem with my handheld computer being called a Palmpilot when it is in fact a Windows Mobile handheld. Oh well, just walk it off and fell proud that since there are less of us in the world that we have our own little cult in an orchestra.

   





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