i recently started singing with my friends who play the guitar and i'm having trouble with composing my own songs and i dont mean composing with chords i mean i cant compose my own melody for my songs
and i hear all those legendary bands like:led zeppelin and deep purple with such rich composition and planty of melodies
and i wonder if the composition of the songs melody (the melody that the singer sing) is also composed by the composer or it is the role of the singer to find it by himself?
and how can i teach myself how to compose a melody for my songs?
Hey man, id say you need to find a style first of all, like figure out the general concept of what you want your melody to sound like. As far as this, id say do you want a grudgier, angrier sound, or a softer smoother melody, or whatever you want. Once that's established, just go with what feels right. All the singers of those bands dont really sit down by themselves and write out a composition, They would sit down and "jam" and just feel something and go with it. So dont think too hard about it. Just go with it, man. If it sounds good, keep it. If it doesnt, then dont.
A lot of people can't write melodies, just as a lot of people can't improvise. Try playing a few connecting chords on the guitar with roughly the rhythm you're after and then just 'Bah bah bah' whatever comes into your head. If you've already got the chords worked out play them and sing the words on one note and see where instinct tells you the tune should change. If you still get nowhere then don't worry about it, just get someone else to write the tune and remind yourself that Elton John can't write lyrics, Jack Bruce doesn't write lyrics, and Led Zep pinched entire songs in their early years...
thank you all
i'll try all those ideas to find myself a melody also i'll try to hear my friends jam this should give me somthing
and i really didnt know all those facts about elton john and all...
it's good to know that they have problems too
it gives me some prespective about musicians and their ability
or lack of ability that they over come with time goes by...
Well, if you want to work out a melody to sing, using the notes of the other instruments....then I think I can help you.
Say the guitar is playing the chord C, right? As the basic C chord consists of the notes C, E and G, you can use those notes to make up your melody.
Say for example that the guitar plays the chord of C for 8 beats....you could sing C, G, G, E, C, E, C, G -and there's your melody which will go perfectly with the music!!
Once you can make a melody from the basic notes of the chord, you can start progressing, and making the melody more intresting. This is where arpeggio's and scales come in.
Take again the arpeggio of C major. (imagine your guitarist is still playing the C chord). The notes of the C major arpeggio are: C, E, G, C, G, E, C - these notes could form the basis of you melody too.
You will need to adapt the notes of your melody as the notes in the music changes....take this as a basic piece of music. The guitar is playing the chords on the top line, and you are singing the melody on the bottom line:
C D F G A C
C G E F A D F C A G D B A A E C G C
are there you have it - there's a basic melody, using the same notes as in the chords in the music!
It's also good to just have a play around. if you know the words, get the musicians to play the music, and try things out -you'll find how your voice will probably automatically find notes which suit the music after a little practise!