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Fredrick
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I was just curious if any of you knew any jazz music that had a french horn in it. I've only ever heard of one instance in passing, but I'm sure there's at least a few more.
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EnigmusJ4
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LONDON HORN SOUND!
Some people think horn cannot do jazz.... I take offense to that. Hoffer Quattro is proof that horn can do jazz, and so is London Horn Sound, here's of vid of them:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JzdKjXEYJ5g
London Horn Sound uses all Alexander's, I believe, and when you listen to them, you can tell all the different sounds horn can make, especially when you throw a ton of them together in one ensemble.
Also, people say oboe can't do jazz either... well here's Oboman on English horn playing some Ellington. http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Tmrl4ShrSk&feature=user
Horn jazz rocks, start digging it, people.
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Scotch
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Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! I was just about to remark that as a grad student I played in a UW-Madison jazz ensemble with a hornest before I saw the above post. The hornest in question was one Adam Unsworth, in fact. So, is this guy famous now or something?
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JOhnlovemusic
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I played horn in the college jazz band. The director would get one chart each quarter that was specific to horn. All the other time I transposed the alto sax part or trombone parts depending on what the conductor wanted.
I think Jazz horn is a completely different beast than Horn. Bobby Routch and Tom Bacon, and those others who do it make it look easy. Top notch players, all of them.
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theeye426
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If it can play music it can play jazz. i have played jazz on the horn before and it sounds pretty good
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exeluff
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horn CAN play jazz...
It's just hard to find music for it.
In a jazz band setting it's probably not ideal, probably why it's so uncommon to see jazz written for horn.
But nobody ever said that horns can't play jazz.
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Hornet
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anything can play jazz. anything can play anything really as long as you have the music and arrangements for it. my dad plays jazz piano and he has played with a horn. it seems like you would have to work hard to play really fast though but then again you have to play really fast in classical music too. the whole point of soloing is to be impressive so the horn's large range would be good for that.
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zoom
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Here's a great track from Miles Davis's "Birth of the Cool" album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOCvsu2BUgc (with links to other tracks from the same sessions). The instrumentation: Trumpet, Alto Sax, Horn, Trombone, Bari Sax, Tuba; Piano, Bass, Drums
As a jazz arranging student (errrrr – almost three decades ago) I put together a "concert practice" group with the same instrumentation. The only difference was due to the fact that we had a great tenor sax player in our year; he got the guernsey in lieu of a bari.
Anyhow, the interesting thing was: at one rehearsal the horn player wasn't available till halfway through. The sound without the horn was entirely different! The tuba (me) sounded like a laggard on the bottom of the section, the rest of the front-line (tpt, alto, tenor, bone) sounded "generic" rather than "cool" – it just didn't work! Add one horn: magic! The impression I got was that the horn's mellowness somehow permeated the entire front-line sound and, in terms of timbre, linked up with (and helped make sense of) the tuba part. Whatever ... it worked! (We were definitely going for "cool" – the prevailing concert practice thing at the time was to get together a quartet or a quintet, a Real Book, and wail many choruses in a sort of Coltranesque manner. I don't think our group ever got above mf. Seasoned jazz aficionados were shocked!!)
Some things I've found I've had to mention to "classical" horn players: (1) Whereas in, say, Bach, Beethoven or Brahms, the horn player is generally aiming at smoothness of dynamic in a given melodic line, a jazz line will typically have many more "hills and hollows" – louds and softs. (2) The "hills and hollows" will often match the high and low pitches of the lead line (trumpet, say); BUT halfway down a voicing of that line, those hills and hollows mightn't necessarily be apparent in the horn's part. Best to pencil in a few indications. They might want tonguing spelt out as well. I've never had any problems with swing (or shuffle, 16th shuffle, whatever) rhythms.
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Here are some search terms you might want to follow up:
Birth of the Cool
Gil Evans
Claude Thornhill
Gerry Mulligan
Sandy Siegelstein
Junior Collins
Gunther Schuller
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=jazz+OR+swing+%22french+horn%22&btnG=Search
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