Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?

    
Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    16:42 on Monday, May 12, 2014          

phred
(157 points)
Posted by phred

Has anyone heard of a fix for the somewhat common bad A or Ab on a Carl Geyer? My single F is a joy to play except for... the A and Ab. Thanks?


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    21:43 on Thursday, July 31, 2014          

JOhnlovemusic
(1279 points)
Posted by JOhnlovemusic

Geyer wraps are well known for those bad notes. The fix?
a very well known east coast player said, "the first thing I do when trying out a Geyer wrap is try to play the high A and Ab. If it's not there I move on to another horn".

The only thing I have seen that works is changing out the leadpipe, with a good leadpipe maker, but this usually also ends up changing the air resistance.

If this is a new horn contact your dealer and tell them the notes don't work. It is a craftsmanship/manufacturing issue and they can change the leadpipe for you under warranty. If it is outside of the warranty or used then you can change the leadpipe yourself or sell it to someone who doesn't have an high A yet.


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    00:30 on Friday, August 1, 2014          

phred
(157 points)
Posted by phred

It's a Carl Geyer ca. 1935, found it used through a small dealer. I may have to change lead pipes. Blows so easily and cleanly, and I love the tone. Interesting about the lead pipe, since the receiver is super huge, an American shank almost disappears into it. Thanks


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    15:47 on Monday, August 18, 2014          

pokey49
(3 points)
Posted by pokey49

I have a Hoyer Geyer style horn and had the same problem with the high A, Bb. Tryied various things to fix it. Finally a new leadpipe did the trick. Hits those notes just fine now.


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    16:28 on Monday, August 18, 2014          

phred
(157 points)
Posted by phred

Pokey,
What lead pipe did you use? I've been thinking I'll just order one to try, but would love to get it right the first time. Not near anyone that makes, so will have to do a trial and return if not liking. Thanks


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    12:07 on Thursday, January 29, 2015          

Krzysz
(11 points)
Posted by Krzysz

It's not only Geyer-wrap horns. I once tried a Conn 8D that had absolutely no top Bb.


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    15:28 on Thursday, January 29, 2015          

phred
(157 points)
Posted by phred

I've got it in the shop right now getting a leadpipe installed. The local shop buys generic conn tapers and modifies for a clearer upper end. We'll see how it sounds. I'm hoping the bass will still be there, since it has a killer low end.


Re: Carl Geyer Bad A/Ab fix?    15:44 on Saturday, March 21, 2015          

phred
(157 points)
Posted by phred

So the horn came back about 6 weeks ago. Great stuff! Fixed by Ian at Best Instrument Repair, and just plays great. Very bright sound, extremely responsive. Very nice for Beethoven and Mozart. I recommend Ian's work.


   




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