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Bent key...wrecked pad    13:27 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

theflutist94
(36 points)

Okay, so last night I put my Orpheus flute on my computer while I was playing my Yamaha...I shouldn't have put it on there. I accidentally bumped the table, and the flute fell off my computer monitor and crashed onto the desk! :'(
When it landed, I found that the A-flat key was bent, and also the pad was wrecked because the pad cushioned the force put onto the key. So now, the Ab key is slightly bent, and I can see a leak.

About how much would it cost to get the key bent back and the pad replaced/reseated by a technician?

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The key's not intensely bent, but it's bad so that I can't make any notes sound clear and full below the first octave G. This is the first time I've had an accident this bad on a flute........scary! :'(

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    14:16 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

suzie
(372 points)

Good luck with your flute getting repaired! As far as I'm concerned I would not voluntarily work on an Orpheo but I'm sure there may be some folks that would!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    16:57 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kara
(2852 points)

Why not Suz? I am not by any means a specialist, but to me they aren't too badly set up or harder to work on than any other flute that I have seen. Sure, they need some tweaking from the factory but a lot of flutes do.

I have no idea how much it would cost to have the pad replaced and the key straightened out. I wouldn't think that it would be too much though. The best thing to do it just take it in some where and find out. Good luck with it

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    19:37 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

suzie
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Chinese craftsmanship isn't always an assuring aspect to any instrument. Yes, Orpheo's are made in China or somewhere around there. The issue sounds like a bent pad cup which I'd guess would be about $50-75 or so (just a guess) and hopefully the key stays intact, etc. Good luck!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    21:23 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

superfloboe01
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that stinks that u have a bent pad and key. my freshman yr i smacked into a pole in my school's band wing goin outside and i bent my flute accidentally. it looked like a banana. from then on my flute was refrenced to as the banana flute. luckily i didn't do anything to my keys. but i almost gave a junior and a senior in my section a heart attack when they saw how bent it was. it was, literally, the shape of a banana. i know the feeling of kinda silly accidents, lol. im sorry, but im not sure how much it would be to fix urs. mine it cost about $50 to fix, but i didn't do anything to my keys or pads. good luck with your repair, tho.

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    21:27 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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My recent repair I had done(two days ago) cost me 65 bucks. I had springs replaced, tarnish cleaned, cork replacement, adjustment, a soldered trill key post, pad leveling, and fixing of a bent key. This technician had it done within 2 days, and I was very impressed. I don't know how bad yours was damaged, but mine plays much better now!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    17:05 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

theflutist94
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It's not exactly the pad cup that is bent, but rather the key arm that is bent, making the pad cup off center from the tone hole.........plus the pad was squished when my flute fell so I think it has to be reseated or replaced. Most likely replaced, the pad looks puffy at one spot now. And the upper part of the key arm hits the trill key rod when I press the Ab key because it's bent



The repairman should agree to work on my flute even though it's apparently Chinese made, right? Because I've heard most repairmen refuse to work on Chinese made flutes.....uh oh. I'll just hope for the best.

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I remember when I took my Yamaha flute to the repairshop and asked them to reseat the thumb key pad (it had a minor leak on it so I got it fixed before an important audition),and they were friendly enough to check all the pads, reseat them as needed, adjust the mechanism, clean, and oil it. And they only charged $35 for all of that when all I asked was to fix one pad! And it only took 2 days total. Or maybe they just found that my flute needed a cleaning, oiling, and adjusting.

So maybe they'll work just as hard on my Orpheo flute! =] I'll try to get it in this weekend.

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Btw, happy 4th of July everyone!!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    06:38 on Saturday, July 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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The straightening, if you are lucky, will take no more than 2 minutes (unless it breaks, which can happen with a Chinese instrument, but the signs are good. If it was going to break it probably would already have done that. ) I'm guessing the repad would be 4 to 8 minutes on a key not connected to any others. Plus the cost of the pad, which I would guess to be under $5.

But on a Chinese flute, the technician runs quite a high risk of parts not cooperating, or falling off. He/she would be quite justified in quoting significantly more to cover themselves - basically a built-in insurance policy so that the customer is sharing some of that risk.

BTW, unless you specifically ask them not to, most technicians are likely to check the rest of the flute and correct a range of other little (or not so little) things at the same time, to make the flute play better, as clearly happened for tenorsax13.

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    11:21 on Saturday, July 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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Yea the tech that worked on my flute found problems I didnt even know existed, and im surprised with how much better it plays, and looks! It would be a good idea if you go ahead and let them check everything else out, even if it does cost a little more. Just to be safe.

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    14:23 on Saturday, July 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

emy47
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Poor you
I think that it should cost you under $100. Pads should not be that expensive but the bent Ab key could be $25-$50


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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    20:17 on Saturday, July 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

theflutist94
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Also, about how much should it cost to get silencers put in the keys? A few of the keys on my Orpheus flute are slightly clicky sounding when you release your finger from them. Good thing this was only my marching flute.......it'd probably be a lot worse if it were for my Yamaha flute to fall!!!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    00:06 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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All flutes have silencing corks or feltswhere keys hit the body. They can get noisier with age.

Noise can also come from where one key links to another, eg cheaper Pearls have tiny bits of plastic under the adjusting screws, which easily falls off.. Possibly best to replace them with nylon-tipped Yamaha screws.

A likely cause of noise is that the flute has not been lubricated for a long time.

Sloppy pivots also make noise.

Price depends on what is needed.


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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    00:26 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Kara
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Some flutes such as the Orpheo have adjustment screws that stick out and hit that above plate making that clicking noise. Some techs use paper while others use leather to put in between the plate and screw thus softening the the hit between the two. Sorry if I am bad with terms. I suck at trying to explain things. I have little training in repairs compared to you Micron, so it suprises me that you were unaware of this. Perhaps you misunderstood when I spoke of silencers. I should have been more specific.

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I'm sorry, I thought I spoke of key silencers in this thread and looked back and apparently I didn't. I see that you weren't referring to me. I must have though it and not wrote it. lol! Wow... it's late here. Good night all.

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    02:06 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

suzie
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I just looked at their auctions again and, apparently, they have a "1 year unlimited warranty". Maybe they have extra parts around or something and would be willing to send you a new key? I suggest calling them on Monday: http://www.orpheusmusicalinstruments.com/contact/contact.html . Good luck!

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Re: Bent key...wrecked pad    07:53 on Sunday, July 06, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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Such warranties can be an illusion.

You buy a flute that is really crappy. It barely works.
Under warranty, they replace it. You have another flute that barely works. They replace it. You have another ........

   





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