Re: Music Education. =D

    
Re: Music Education. =D    21:40 on Thursday, December 17, 2009          

meisjevanfluit
(47 points)
Posted by meisjevanfluit

What's the difference between a B.S. in music ed and a B.M. ?


Re: Music Education. =D    09:03 on Friday, December 18, 2009          

JOhnlovemusic
(1279 points)
Posted by JOhnlovemusic

A Bachelor of Science is liberal arts degree. The Bachelor of Music covers your core studies but has an almost conservatory study of music.

The BM will include more units of study and lots more performance oriented requirements, probably more and/or longer required recitals (at many universities).


Re: Music Education. =D    23:53 on Friday, December 25, 2009          

meisjevanfluit
(47 points)
Posted by meisjevanfluit

"A Bachelor of Science is liberal arts degree. The Bachelor of Music covers your core studies but has an almost conservatory study of music.

The BM will include more units of study and lots more performance oriented requirements, probably more and/or longer required recitals (at many universities)."

Right, I know about the BM (I am in a BM program now). But then what is a B.S. vs. B.A. then?


Re: Music Education. =D    00:57 on Saturday, December 26, 2009          

Chandlia
(2 points)
Posted by Chandlia

But then what is a B.S. vs. B.A. then?

Generally speaking, Bachelor of Arts' focus more on the liberal arts aspect of education while Bachelor of Science's are more technical (focusing more on the quantitative over the qualitative). It's worth noting, however, that B.A.s and B.S.s can vary greatly between individual university and college programs. B.A's usually have a reputation of being "easier" to obtain.

Example: For my History and Poli. Sci. degrees the main difference I worried over was that the B.A required four units of foreign languages (the equivalent of twelve hours) vs. the B.S only requiring Statistics (three hours)as its major requirement. For my double major, the less credit hours I spent, the better! So for me -- not that big a difference (and the B.S. was the easier). My advice is: if you're planning on pursuing a job or grad. school in a technical field or the sciences get a B.S. If you know for certain that you'll be specializing in the arts, by all mean get a B.A. Most people think the B.S. gives you more (and better) options but I think the B.A. has its share of positives as well.


Re: Music Education. =D    06:39 on Saturday, December 26, 2009          

Pyrioni
(437 points)
Posted by Pyrioni

My school music teacher (secondard school) had the same dream when young - wanted to become a music teacher in secondard school and establish a magnificent school band. So he studied music degree in World's top 17th university, he plays piano, guitar, flute and all kinds of woodwind instruments. After graduation he fulfiled his dream and teaches in a local top English Government international school where I am studying at.

But school band, no way, no one is really interested in classical instruments. There are two kinds of people in midle school - people don't like classical instruments and people love classical instruments.

People don't like classical instruments never really like to study musical instruments with school teacher.

People love classical instruments never study with school teacher, cuz they are Jack of all trades, Master of None. In our school, Brass players are local champions, me Flute player play way better than this music teacher already, Violin players obtained LTCL performance level at the age of 13 and 14. So we are all despites this teacher of all trades. As for piano, we are all better than him, he couldn't even keep up with our speed as a accompanist.

After 10 years of frustration, his dream broken, losing hope, everyday go to school and get off school, let us sign up in music club as ECA and let us sign and leave without us really staying. I truly feel sorry for those music teachers in school. I mean what ERA is this? This ERA everybody concentrates on study, or everyone concentrates to master ONE instrument.


Re: Music Education. =D    20:34 on Saturday, December 26, 2009          

flute_n_bassoon
(309 points)
Posted by flute_n_bassoon

Good Point Pyroni, but I really don't intend to be that way.
I plan to be able to play most instruments, but only for the understanding I get of that. I would certainly rather my students find a private instructor, but I feel I can be a better teacher having encountered the difficulties of each instrument, but I would not want to teach students how to play them.
What I do want to do, however, is master the bassoon, mainly so I can promote it. Where I am, and hope to teach, there are hardly any bassoon teachers, and fewer bassoonists.
So the only instrument I truly intend to bring a student to a serious level on through my teaching is bassoon,and only if they cannot afford lessons from another. I would love to play bassoon in an orchestra, but I think it would be too boring. You do the same thing everyday!
I had a teacher that was a Jack of all Trades once, I trusted him and had him teach me instruments, only to find he taught me bad habits, trying to keep all his knowledge straight. I would NEVER lead a student to that fate, and a school music teacher is never a legitimate private teacher on all instruments.
Besides, I get bored on one instrument, I need other things to learn, and as long as you don't pursue too many instruments to a serious level, only one or two, it makes those one or two better, because you become more attentive to your em brochure and its problems, things you never would notice unless you try to form a new one using different muscles, muscles you may never have known were there to use until you needed them.


Re: Music Education. =D    21:18 on Sunday, December 27, 2009          

Pyrioni
(437 points)
Posted by Pyrioni

hi flute_bassoon, I see your goal now, I play 1st flute and 2nd flute in two different youth orchestras now, and yes, bassoonists told me the same thing you just said, it's very boring for them, very few teachers, and even fewer students here too. Lacking solo that kills them most. Last time when we had ensemble, the bassoonist even begged me to rewrite the ensemble piece (quintet) to add a solo for him, lol, and I did.

I think the best thing for you is to study Orchestration and Conducting in a college, instead of playing different instruments, I mean you can still master flute or bassoon, but when you are out of college, you can work as freelancer and help middle schools to establish school orchestras. Here in our city with 8 million population, over 90% of the schools don't have orchestral or with very bad school bands, becuz we lack good conductors. some of my teachers are helping schools to establish student orchestras.

Learn Orchestration will help you to know all the problems of all orchestral instruments. also the pay are not bad, you can form your own youth orchestra and take many charity shows, like our youth orchestra, when your orchestra is good and well-known, you can charge high fees for students to come join, trust me, there are many many rich kids will join, and they love to play in shows.


   








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