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rian222
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Okay, for starters, i don't want to sound like im bragging, but i am 16 yrs old, i have played the trumpet for 8 yrs, and i have recently learned to circular breathe. I have many questions for people because i am trying to figure out the best way to improve. So here goes:
1. I wanted to know if there was a program or an online thing of some sort, or even a cd that i could listen to to learn relative and perfect pitch. This is the main thing i want to learn, my music teacher hasn't learned yet himself and he cannot further my advancement in this area. I want to be able to do relative and perfect(sometimes called absolute) pitch before i go to college(i am a junior). So what is my best option?
2. I can circular breathe pretty fluently, but the tone goes crazy when i do it, is there some way i can fix this? If there were a website of some sort that focused on the improvement of circular breathing, that would be awesome, but anything will help.
3. I want to know if anyone knows where i can get professional trumpet lessons near Eugene, Oregon. Preferably one who can help me with the following things in this order:
Perfect/Relative pitch, Circular breathing, range increasing(i can hit a double a{not consistently}), lip endurance, and double tongueing(for some reason, i just cant get this down!)
I have no money, so the first 2 questions should have 0$ budget answers if you can, but my parents can fund the trumpet lessons, thx for your help.
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rian222
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I don't know if double posting is allowed in this forum, but i didn't see an edit button.
I am currently using my band teachers trumpet(its a piece of crap) i do happen to have my own mouthpiece though, its a 3c. I am looking for my own trumpet. I love the sound of the nickel trumpets, but they are usually silver and i don't like it. I absoultely adore the black ones though, but i am told most have a darker tone. Is there a good nickel trumpet i can get that's black? Oh, and i am talking about a Bb trumpet. Thx.
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rian222
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Sorry for the triple post, but i have one more thing to add:
I also wanted to learn more about multiphonics, where you play the trumpet and sing at the same time, any 0$ budget resources on this would be good.
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cancervivor
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First of all, circular breathing, though I have no doubts about its possibility, seems quite "unnatural" to me. From what I know, the most obvious reason your tone goes crazy is because while you're inhaling you lose support from your diaphragm.
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rian222
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Well the thing is, it took me 1 week of trying to do it to learn, i guess i am a natural, but i really want to improve at it. It really isnt 'circular breathing', it IS impossible to breath in 2 directions at once, but you can still breath through your nose and keep sound coming out your trumpet. You have to fill your cheeks with air, and push the air out into the mouthpiece with your cheeks. And while you do that, you breath in your nose.
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cancervivor
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You may keep the note going by using the relatively small amount of air obtained by filling your cheeks, but I doubt that you'll ever be able to properly support your tone sufficiently with facial muscles. Good tone requires support from the abdomen. No way around it.
Point of curiosity. I find it strange that someone who has been playing trumpet for 8 years doesn't have a horn of their own. By now, even if buying one was an unaffordable option, you/they could by now have easily paid for one through a rent-to-own program, as offered by most stores who sell and rent band instruments.
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rian222
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I actually do own my own trumpet, 2 actually. One is older than my grandma(its broken now) and one i lent to my cousin in canada.
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Spiri
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I reckon circular breathing is only useful when playing long fast passages like "Moto Perpetuo". That piece actually doesnt give you a chance to breathe anywhere.
Now, i dont know how fast your fingers are but i think there wont be too many people able to play Perpetuo...because of the fast fingers AND flexibility required to play this piece.
But its still worth trying to circular breathe if you want to. Not necessary though!
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OldComebackTrump
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Circular Breathing can be done and still produce a good tone, but it is very difficult. Listen to Sergei Nakariakov, in my opinion the best trumpet player in the world, play Moto Perpetuo using circular breathing. Excellent tone, precise double tongueing, and no breaths. Also Winton Marsalis has a recording of this tune, but slurs the notes instead of double tongueing. Still impressive, though. Like you, I have never been able to do double or triple tongueing. Perhaps some day I'll learn. If you want to hear a sample of either of the above without having to buy the recording, go to Amazon.com and listen to the samples of the Moto Perpetuo tracks. Just do a search for either Nakariakov Moto Perpetuo or Marsalis Moto Perpetuo. Also, do a search for Raphael Mendez Moto Perpetuo, as he did it many years ago.
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