Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 13:06 on Thursday, October 23, 2003
The difference between a coret and a trumpet is that you can`t play as loud as an trumpet can. And you can`t scream with a cornet. When you play in a band, it`s easy for a trumpet play louder then the band, but with a cornet is that much more difficult!
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 20:08 on Friday, October 31, 2003
Actually, there is a very substantial hypothetical difference. A traditional cornet has a more conical bore (i.e., the rate at which the tubing diameter increases down its length is exponential, if you ignore the flare at the very end), like a french horn, whereas trumpets and trombones have cylindrical bores, more of an arithmetic rate of increase. Coupled with the traditional deep cup cornet mouthpiece, a cornet has a mellower, less brilliant sound. Usually the shank of the mouthpiece is a different size, too. As a practical matter, the variation seems to be much less on cornets of modern manufacture, so, if you buy a new instrument, and use a standard trumpet-style mouthpiece, little if any difference will be noticeable. Cornets are shorter overall, but with the same total tubing length, just wound up more tightly-- except that years ago, some instruments with cornet tubing diameter characteristics were made with the tubing bends configured like trumpets, so from a distance you couldn`t tell from looking at them.
I`m sure there are more knowledgeable folks out there who can improve on this explanation, though it`s probably not bad for someone who hasn`t had a chance to play seriously for years.
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 20:45 on Friday, October 31, 2003
well, to clarify his... um speach.
A Cornet has a much more round and mellow sound, unlike the trumpet which was designed to be heard sharp and clear over an orchestra. A piccolo trumpet usually has a less beautiful tone quality, and few uses, but I think Bach may have written a few pieces for it. A Pocket trumpet has less quality in tone, but is a nice practice trumpet or novelty. I have played each, and learned a great deal, each has it`s own sound. The trumpet is strong and sharp, the Cornet is mellow, the piccolo is high and.. well interesting and the pocket trumpet is for fun and practice.
Hope this is easier to understand than the technical lecture. :-)
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 21:58 on Friday, October 31, 2003
And was there something the matter with my technical lecture?
Actually, this was the first time I ever posted anything anywhere (I came across Dave`s question doing a Google search for something else), and now I`m so traumatized that (sniffle) I`ll never post anything again!
(Actually, you should have such luck!)
Actually, for real this time, a piccolo trumpet can sound quite beautiful, as on Maurice Andre recordings. I sorta sounded a little like that once, but going to medical school killed any skill I had in a big way, so Matt`s implied judgement that a piccolo trumpet sounds awful is certainly true for my playing now.
For the benefit of anyone who might misinterpret Matt`s remark about Bach and piccolo trumpets, they didn`t exist back then (the piccolo trumpet seems to have been first made in the early 20th century, but rarely seen until the 1960s). During Bach`s day, all those high trumpet parts were played on valveless natural trumpets-- valves hadn`t been invented yet either. During most of the past century, people with that level of skill on natural trumpets haven`t been around. Indeed, when I first started playing in 1970, there was still a myth that Baroque trumpeters had some kind of long-lost "secret" that allowed them to play that high. Of course, as interest in baroque music and natural trumpets increased over the last 30 years, and more people started playing them, it became evident that there wasn`t any "secret" other than the one that applies to all instruments-- if you want to be good, you have to practice a lot.
Regarding pocket trumpets, they`re just regular tubing-length B-flat trumpets wound up tighter, and usually the bell flare is smaller, too. The only one I`ve ever played is a piece of crap I bought on eBay, so I don`t know if high quality ones even exist.
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 08:53 on Friday, May 21, 2004
the length of both a trumpet and a cornet is approx. 1 meter. the difference is indeed the bore: the trumpet`s bore is cylindrical, whereas the bore of the cornet changes halfway from cylindrical to conical. The bore of the flugelhorn (and also the french horn reffered to above) is conical from leadpipe to the end. The bore influences the way the instrument amplifies the sound produced by the lips in the mouthpiece. The flugelhorn sounds most mellow, than the cornet, and the trumpet is more sharp (and also most direct). a pocket trumpet is just a trumpet with one extra wounding (so also a cylindrical bore).
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 00:07 on Thursday, May 27, 2004
I play a Bb Cornet and would play a cornet rather than a trumpet because I think that they sound nicer and you would have an instrument that no one else has.I don`t know anybody within 80 miles from my house that has a cornet!
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 04:41 on Thursday, May 27, 2004
i`m sorry to spoil your cornet proudness because i know dozens of cornet players.
i play both trumpet and cornet myself. cornets are used in brass bands. To get a good impression of this cornet sound you may want to look for some european brass banding (for example yorkshire building society band, or black dyke, etc.) and you will hear some excellent cornet playing.
which sounds better a trumpet or a cornet? depends on what your playing in what kind of orchestra/band. and of course extremely important: depends on who`s playing
Re: What`s the difference between a Cornet and Trumpet? 20:28 on Tuesday, June 01, 2004
In answer to the pocket trumpet question.. they are HORRIBLE! The tone is awful and they are impossible to keep in tune. A quality pocket trumpet costs a lot- is not useful in any playing setting- and is a waste of money. If you are inclined to buy one, however, chech on ebay for some cheaper deals so you dont totally waste your money.