um... that would be a good idea. but no, really, i wouldnt have the guts to post it online.
i've been doing that thing where i match my voice to different music. i think its helping a bit!

I think anyone can improve their voice. I know you mentioned not wanting to get voice lessons but, that would be the best way to improve - a voice teacher would know exactly what you need. If a private lessons are out of reach, group voice class is really helpful (and fun) too. I've taken a lot of group voice classes and I really learned alot from other students and the teacher as well.

As an answer to your first question, no i dont believe that anyone actually cant sing. i think anyone can sing if they practise and try to improve. i do think a few of my friends are really bad at singing but thats only because i am comparing them to myself(i've been singing for over 10 years). but yeah, try to get a teacher, with or without a group and just keep practising and you'll get better. And dont be afraid of singing outside the shower because each different room in the house has different acoustics which will make ur voice either reverberate back to you or sound quieter because of what is in the room absorbs what ur singing. and just a little quote my dad used to say: "if you can't sing good, sing loud."

ohh boy.
well you know how some people just cant play an instrument.
i've got a girl in my class and she goes to camps all summer,
she thinks shes good but shes horrible.
thats how i feel with my voice.
my voice is a weird range too.
usually when i talk its deep for a girl, but when i sing i can go really really high but not very low.

Well in case you don't post something up, there is no way how to help you

You should really post something up of yourself. I noticed you don't have your picture or anything posted in your profile so no one will really know who is singing. Even if someone says something negative, which i doubt anyone will, who cares. You don't really know them anyway right. There are a lot of nice people on this site i think and they would be more than willing to help you instead of bring you down. I really think you should seriously consider it. I wish i would have posted something up before i put my pictures up, lol. Well, good luck to you either way.

My music teacher told me our voices and bodies are our instruments. Yet actual musical instruments do require some musical talent and LOTS of practise... ur voice sounds a bit like mine. (apart from the fact im confident about my singing (no offence)) i sound like i've got a sort of lowish voice when i talk but i'm a soprano who can get at least 3 E's above middle c. and just so ya know, girls, especially not sopranos are meant to go that low. but if u cant get too high (like really really(!) high, ur probably a mezzo soprano... but like everyone else is saying... WE CANT TELL UNLESS YOU LET US HEAR YOU (that wasnt meant to sound mean or angry, im just making a point) so plz put something up coz u've intrigued me and i want to hear ur voice... Pretty pleeeeaaassseeee??

ha ha woah.
well i dont put a pic on my avatar because i'm not very confident about that either. i'm just not a very confident person.
i am only confident in playing my sax, and only sometimes.
i'm very, very quiet.
then i guess i'm un-fixable... *sighs...* oh well.
thanks guys, and if you want just keep talking back and fourth on this thread because its fun.
how confident are you guys?
(keep in mind your probabally pretty people with nice voices, lol)

Aww. you shouldn't be like that. I used to be so shy and had low self esteem when i was in junior high and stuff, and now that i look back on it, it was so not worth it. You really shouldn't care what other people think and just focus and improving yourself and doing what you love.

Chisun, that is soo true. ur never gonna improve on anything if ur always(and i mean always) worrying about what other people think and say. just sing ur heart out and have fun doin it. and dont put urself down coz im sure ur gonna be a gr8 singer one day.. if you arent already

well thanks guys.
i dont worry what people think, its more so an 'i suck so why bother' thing. but oh well.
one day on this post after i find the freeking microphone for the computer, i'll find some song and sing it for your guys.
anyhow... whats up?

hey
I haven't heard you sing but your mom said you were bad so i guess i am belivin here Lol no tips for you becuase i am bad too!
love you
guess who it is

ha ha very nice sexyslider.
i see you found the forum... ohhh boy.
that was mean, by the way, i'm crying!
not really.
anyhow, nice of you to join, because i know you love band sooooooooooooooooo much.
xoxo hugs and such
~Triforce
(p.s. i dont use my real name here, it makes me feel special so dont spill the beans... i know where you live, literally!)

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oh by the way for everyone else, this is one of my very good friends.
i go on and on to her about the site and forums and stuff and how cool it is
so i guess she joined because of me, because i'm so inresistable like that...
yeah right.
anyhow, ignore her because she is crazy. i'm gonna get punched for that. :)

so how are your peoples self esteem before and after you started singing in public?

oh oh oh oh oh... wait... i think i'm getting better.
i can hear a change in my voice from a few weeks ago...