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Extremely low notes    16:00 on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Fredrick
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The human ear can hear down to 20 Hz and I was wondering if anybody knew if a tuba could play that low or, if not, how low a tuba can play.

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Re: Extremely low notes    04:40 on Thursday, January 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

ekdavies
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You can work this out as follows:

440Hz (Hz=Hertz the unit of frequency) is the A above middle C (the usually "tuning note" for orchestras) and the Bb above is therefore approximately 466Hz. As today's standard scale has an equal temperament ie 12 increments on a logarithmic scale doubling every octave- see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament

The lowest open note on Bb Trumpet/cornet is an octave below ie approximately 233Hz.

The lowest open note on Bb Euphonium is a further octave below ie approximately 116Hz.

And the lowest open note on BBb Bass is a further octave below ie approximately 58Hz. I've avoided pedal notes which are a further octave lower and approximately 29Hz on a BBb Bass. In principle, a very good player could descend a further half octave using the standard valves ie down to approximately 20.5Hz. Other tubas can't play this low eg a EEb tuba is a 4th higher ie frequencies are higher by a factor of 1.3348.

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Re: Extremely low notes    14:34 on Thursday, January 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Richardrichard9
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Weird, I actually had a problem about tuba frequencies in Pre Calculus class a few weeks ago.

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Re: Extremely low notes    14:25 on Saturday, January 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

captainpat
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i HATE math class we are doing algera now and it hurts

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Re: Extremely low notes    15:46 on Saturday, January 05, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Richardrichard9
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I Love math ...

<Added>

And Physics

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Re: Extremely low notes    18:28 on Friday, March 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

zoom
(323 points)

(my tuppenceworth two months later)

It's possibly easier to think of the A's (440 being a nice, easy number to deal with)

440 – tuning note
220 – octave lower; half the frequency
110 – another octave lower; half the frequency again
55 – third ledger line below the bass stave
27.5 – beneath the sixth ledger line – lowest note on a regular piano – lower than I've needed in "real life" ... main use is to upstage contrabassoons

At schools I used to demonstrate an A major arpeggio incorporating these five notes on the Eb tuba that I was using at the time.

In normal orchestral and band use, all of the notes are available on all of the tubas; the main reason for selecting one instrument over another is to do with timbre. Generally speaking, you could think of a big, bottomy (sometimes spread) sound versus a tighter, focused sound, but the best way to compare is to get a player to demonstrate the various instruments.

Of course, you don't want to walk into a Bydlo or Symphonie Fantastique rehearsal with a monster Bb – or Prokofiev anything with a petite F!

There's a lot of info to be found on this specialist forum: http://forums.chisham.com/viewforum.php?f=2


cheers – zoom

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Re: Extremely low notes    18:47 on Friday, March 07, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

zoom
(323 points)

ps – Bydlo – a famous section with an infamously high tuba solo, from Pictures at an Exhibition – Mussorgsky orch Ravel

This guy makes it look easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw1NL2AREyU


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Re: Extremely low notes    03:26 on Saturday, March 08, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

ure-name-here
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theres a instrument called a tubax, its a sub contrabass saxaphone 8 feet hight with 28 feet of tubing. it can play the space below the 8th leger line and can be tuned to play too low for humans to hear

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Re: Extremely low notes    05:39 on Saturday, March 08, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

zoom
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Absolute lunacy

Here's the tubax Wikipedia page. Includes links to mp3's – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubax

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Re: Extremely low notes    09:24 on Saturday, March 08, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Richardrichard9
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That's absolutely crazy lol

   

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