Vibrato

How to play/practice bassoon with vibrato?
the sound now i'm playing is very "solid"

Thanks
Wilson

i have often wondered the same thing, ive never found any "set" way to play vibrato, like written in a book or anything, so i learnt it my own way, i alter my flow of breath whilst pressing and releasing on my reed. it works for me. My teacher thinks it sounds nice, but i dont know if its correct. Sorry i cant be of more help.

Check the IDRS:
http://idrs.colorado.edu/publications/Journal/JNL4/vibrato.html

Well, it's a very technical article... but google have a lot of material about... check with "woodwind vibrato technics" or something like it :-)

One thing to keep in mind is that less is more. Overuse of vibrato just sounds awful. I'd start out by just adding a little bit here and there where it sounds "right". For me, I found using my diaphragm to control air flow worked the best, but a lot of people use throat or lip vibrato. Using my lips always made my tuning go wonky and I found it less consistent. Try a few different things and see what works best (for some pieces, one kind might be better than the other). Make sure you don't compromise your sound and tuning for vibrato. It's better to have a good strong tone and be in tune with no vibrato than to have the best vibrato in the world and always be sharp.


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i find Diaphram, the others dont come as naturally and as jennywren said, make ur tuning all "wonky"

for me, i found that a balance between throat and diaphragm work nicely i agree the lip version makes tuning kind of funny.

I also use my diaphram to do vibrato, though on other instruments i sometimes use a combination of that and my jaw. I think diaphram gives alot of control, though it may be tricky for some people to get the hang of using there diaphram.

Vibrato is mainly from the diaphragm or the throat. No offense, but pressing and releasing on your reed with your jaw is the cheap way to do it. Not the real way. It should eventually come out in your playing wth a lot of practice.

Vibrato is simple: play as normal and get your audience to cover and uncover their ears quickly and repeatedly with their hands/programs.

Theodora, your way sounds by far the easiest!

I also use the lip vibrato way, but I don't know any other way to do it lol.

Yes, lip vibrato is a big no-no. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who endorses that on the bassoon. One way of practicing it with your air is the "ha" method. Vibrato is nothing more than change of pitch-- needs to go flat and sharp. So start of by saying "ha" by kicking your diaphragm in each time, making your ha's short. Then when you can do that, say ha but this time keep it connected with the next ha by making your pitch go up when you kick in your diaphragm and then go flat when you let it go. Then transfer this to your instrument. You will need to work to get the speed up, though. Hope this makes sense.

Finally someone who knos what they are talking about

The speed of the vibrato, depends on the music passage dynamics. If you are playing a slow movement, like 2nd. of weber concert, you can't do a fast vibrato... it's horrible !!! :-) in a slow passage like that, vibrato doesn't take the whole note, just the last 3/4 of it starting with a slow vibrato speed, and accelerating constantly through the note. Also, don't use vibrato on all notes, just the final notes of a musical phrase. You must always imitate the human voice behavior in the vibrato.
Vibrato speed, also depends on the note you are playing... low notes, uses slow vibrato, and higer notes, uses a faster vibrato.