Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously

    
Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    17:23 on Saturday, January 17, 2004          
(sakuramimato)
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I recently upgraded to an open hole flute over the summer and have heard that it was possible to play two notes at the same time on open hole flute by pressing down on an opened hole without covering the hole so as to make the note leak out of the key.

Is it really possible to be able to play two notes at the same time on Open Hole or is it something just made up? If so, are there any available charts on them online?


Re: Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    11:58 on Sunday, January 18, 2004          
(Becky)
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No, its not possible, if you were to partially cover a hole, you would get quarter tones out, thats the advantage of open hole flutes, which aids in run ups and run downs fantastically.
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Re: Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    15:03 on Sunday, January 18, 2004          
(sakuramimato)
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What`s a quarter tone?


Re: Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    12:58 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004          
(Jenny)
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Here`s the deal with flute acoustics--

First a quarter tone is something in between the standard half steps you find on a [in tune] piano. So sounding a note halfway between the E and the F is one example. Likewise between D and D#, between Ab and B, you get the idea. Usually there are little arrows on the note`s stem indicating up or down, telling you whether to play a quarter tone sharp or flat of the note written.

Second, by playing with acoustics etc. you CAN make two notes sound on the flute at the same time. The physics that go into flute sound include overtones or harmonics. Some advanced flute music will actually include these by writing the note in parenthesis above or below the note you are actually supposed to hit.

Everytime you play a note, you will be playing more than just the fundamental frequency, but the harmonics usually blend together causing what people refer to as a "rich tone." There are ways to make these come out more. Even when I try to hit the notes just right to make the harmonic heard, it`s usually accidental when it works.

If you are particularly interested in this phenomenon there are some good books available- The complete guide to the flute by Burkart and Phelan has a good introduction to the physics of sound of the instrument without being overwhelming. This is their website: http://www.burkart.com/book/book.htm
Don`t bother buying it though, find it at the library (if yours doesn`t have a copy, you can usually have it sent over from another branch)

From there you can start poking around your local university`s music section and see what interesting things you can find.


Re: Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    15:38 on Tuesday, January 20, 2004          
(Eric)
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I have an open-holed flute... i understand the quarter tone thingy and i was just wondering if you have a quarter-tone fingering chart or sumthin online?


Re: Open Hole: Playing Two Notes Simultaneously    18:25 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004          
(Jenny)
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I haven`t encountered a quarter tone fingering chart online, but I have found several in my library. Someone from my university actually did their thesis on all the fingerings that can be done on a solid silver flute with a B-footjoint. It`s interesting, but not useful unless you have need for a particular note.

For the most part just think about what note is written, decide whether you want to go up or down from it and half cover the key. Ex. I want a note between F# and G, so I do the fingering for the F#, but half cover the last hole. I use that one a lot as I slide from one note to the next in traditional Irish music.

I personally find it more fun to discover these fingerings on my own. Especially since each flute is unique, when you are dealing with so called "fake fingerings" and quarter tone fingerings, it may be best to see what sounds correct on your given instrument.


   




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