What do ya ppl think of the marvelous bassoon?

You learned trombone in a few weeks????
Wow, I have been playing for years and still learn new things every day! Maybe I should be taking lessons from you????
Seriously, every instrument has its challenges. Trumpet and trombone are equally difficult instruments to play well.
I know just as many arrogant trombone players as any other instrumentalists. Everyone thinks their instrument is the best.
The fact is, both instruments have unique challenges and unique capabilities. The each play different roles in the ensemble. They are different voices. Let's quit worrying about which one is better, which one is harder. Let's focus on becoming better musicians and better players, no matter what instrument we choose.

What I mean by learned is being capable of accurately playing the instrument, not becoming a frickn' master! Trombone players have a slide that makes playing in-tune note much harder, and forces the player to struggle to train his/her ear for each note, while the trumpet player can practice rhythyms more, because the notes come out perfectly every time. (except for the d, which requires most players to have to move the little slide, but big deal, it's not that hard!) This is why it took me way longer to learn the trombone.
It is also the hardest instrument to slur with, and the hardest to play fast on. The only difficulty of a trumpet that I can think of is the smaller mouthpiece. Otherwise, the trombone is a much harder instrument.

I been a trumpet player since i was 8 (I am now 14 and doing grade 8 next week) my best mate is a trombone player, as is my girlfriend!

Trumpets and trombones are both instruments based on the harmonic series. The harmonic series has intonation issues in its own right, then add the tendencies of the instrument. Trumpet players have to adjust just as much as we do. We use our handslide, they use their valve slides.
If you are of the naive impression that trumpets get the right note in tune every time because of their valves, you seriously have a lot to learn about brass instruments.
When you really think about it, trombone playing is quite simple. Buzz the right pitch, breathe correctly, and have the slide in the right place.
I have the privlege of working with some amazing trumpet players. They face a lot of challenges, especially the constant switching between C, Bb and Eb, and piccolo trumpets.
Personally, I have to throw the BS flag at anyone who says they learned an instrument accurately in a few weeks. Developing great tone and intonation is a lifelong process. Five years from now, you will look back and wish you hadn't said it, because as your ears develop, you'll realize a lot of things you didn't want to know.
All instruments are difficult. But let's face it. The instrumental issues are a means to an end. Music is the toughest instrument. You have to get past the mechanics of the horn so you can play the music.

Well, I'll tell you what. You brought up absolutely no points about how a trumpet is harder than a trombone, all you said was it wasn't always in tune, and you're lieing to yourself if you say it is harder to play a note in tune on a trumpet. On the contrary,I brought up plently of reasons why a trombone is harder than a trumpet.

I'm lying to myself, eh? You know what kid (I can only assume you are a kid by the way you write... if not, you should be ashamed of yourself), it really doesn't bother me what you think about it. I've been playing trombone probably longer than you have been alive. I make my living doing it. Believe what you need to believe. I can only try to open your eyes to some bigger concepts. There is a level of understanding that comes only with experience. It's up to you if you want to believe that you, in your short time playing know so much more than I do. But frankly, I have better things to do with my time than have petty arguments like this... like practice. In the end, it doesn't really matter which is harder. You had just better be able to play which ever one you chose well if you want to work. Good luck.

okay..... i personally think that trumpets and trombones get along, in my exprience as a trombone player, in my swing band the trombones and trumpets seem to team up against the saxaphones, wheresas in the brass band i play for there is definately rivalry not hatred though, us trombones like parts which are loud and stand out so when they get good parts we dont have, then ooooooo all hell is let loose!
lol

You've probably made more posts on this forum than days I've been alive.

we don hate trumpets we dislikem jk i just hate that they think they are better than us

Steve, did you ever read Jay Friedman's website? In one article, he says that he marvels at how incredibly difficult the principal trumpet's job is in an orchestra. He says that he dabbles on trumpet every now and then, and because of that he has a lot of respect for trumpet players, whether in an orchestra or jazz ensemble. The amount of pressure their chops have to endure on a daily basis is enough to make you scream. I used to play trumpet before starting the trombone, and I got tired a lot more quickly than I ever did on trombone.

By the way, your last post was great. Good job defending yourself. If the poster who had a problem with you didn't want to open up to new ideas, that's his problem.

Bottom line is that both instruments present challenges that take a more than a lifetime to master.

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I just wanted to add something. My band director in college was a trumpet player who won and international trumpet competition in 1982, and later freelanced all over the United States and also held a position in the Hartford Symphony. He always scolded the trombone section when they played out of tune. According to him, the trombone was the easiest instrument to play in tune. If you are out of tune, simply move the slide to the right place. With the trumpet, you have to adjust your embouchure and airflow in order to sound the correct pitch, and that's very hard to do without having your tone quality suffer.

Also, for trumpet players, the 7th partial is basically unusable. However, trombone players can use that partial simply by moving the slide inward (high G in raised 2nd, F#/Gb in raised 3rd, etc.). This makes life a lot easier for trombone players, because it gives the trombonist a new set of alternate positions. The trumpet player has to make due without this benefit.

The trumpets here don't really hate the trombones. They hate the woodwinds. More specifically the clarinets (firewood) and the piccolos.

Well, I think there is might be more enmity between clarinets and trumpets than trombones and trumpets- at least my clari friends think so(of course, there are always exeptions.) Any way, my opinion is that a lot of trombonists envy the trumpet's place in ensemble- they usualy have the melody and get most of the solos. At the very beggining, it was hard for me to not have the melody- of course, I'm probably an isolated case. I play first chair violin, too.

Sorry, I need to ammend- I love my place in the band- it just took a while to get used to it. It's still hard, though, when you go to a big festival and can't see or here the conductor, and the flutes get all snitty when you ask what they said. And for the person who said they hate bag pipes- shame on you! I, of course, hate bassists. Well, no, one of my best friends plays great bass and percussion- just one. He's eeeevil, I tell you, eeeeeviiil!

I used to hate the trumpets in my like 6 and 7th grade band because they were always messing around wasting time which made our director yell at ALL of us instead of just them. And none of them were any good. They were always dropping mouthpieces and stuff like that which would also waste time and get us yelled at. But throguh the few years now I'm going into 9th grade I notice it much much much less. For a bit I thought about switching to trumpet....but then I realized I wasn't thinking straight ;]