Dotted note vs. tie question
Dotted note vs. tie question
18:41 on Thursday, April 10, 2008
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Some_Random_Name (12 points)
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Posted by Some_Random_Name
I already fully understand that a dot adds half the duration of then note it is placed after to that note, and that a tie adds the duration of the note at the end of it to the note in front of the tie, but is there any way to add one fourth the duration of a note to a note using some kind of dot instead of a tie? (e.g. instead of writing a quarter note tied to a sixteenth note, a special type of dot is used.) I'm assuming that if there is, it is a triangle-shaped dot similar to the stacattisimo mark.
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
21:46 on Saturday, April 12, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
22:20 on Saturday, April 12, 2008
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Some_Random_Name (12 points)
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Posted by Some_Random_Name
...Quarter note tied to sixteenth note is quite easy for everyone to read and therefore, such a thing would not be useful |
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That's true, however, a quarter note tied to an eigth note is also easy to read, but composers usually write a dotted quarter note instead because it is easier and faster to write (assuming he/she is writing the composition by hand). The reason I wanted to know wasn't for making the notation easier to read, but easier to write.
Well, from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), there's no rule saying I can't make up a symbol for it and indicating in the piece exactly what it means, right?
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
00:38 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
16:29 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Some_Random_Name (12 points)
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Posted by Some_Random_Name
Well, if you actually did that, it would be quite confusing for anyone other than you reading the score. |
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I don't think it would be that confusing... After all, the instruction would be written right in the score.
The rythm dot system works like this : each time you had a dot, you add half the duration the previous dot added. No dot is full duration, simple dot adds half the duration, second dot adds half of what the first dot added and third dot adds half of what the second dot added. |
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I already understand how dots work, but thanks anyways.
Most used is simple dot, which is used VERY often. A symbol that would had ¼ of the note duration would not be used very often, thus there is no real need for one. |
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A note that is held for only one fourth of its duration (stacattisimo) is also not used very often (at least, not that I've seen), and yet there is still a symbol for that. If there is a 'simple' symbol to add half the value of a note to a note, a 'simple' symbol to hold a note for half of it's duration, and even a 'simple ' symbol to hold a note for one fourth of it's duration, then why not make a simple symbol to add one fourth the value of a note to a note as well?
If we had to create a symbol for everything in music, well, sheet music would be impossible to read... |
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You do have a point...
Anyways, thanks for the replys.
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
21:46 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
15:45 on Monday, May 19, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
13:23 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
16:41 on Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
03:02 on Thursday, July 3, 2008
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Re: Dotted note vs. tie question
20:17 on Thursday, July 3, 2008
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Scotch (660 points)
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Something I did see recently in a Bolcom piece was the actual rhythm notated as desired and then the words "sempre" meaning play the rest of the patterns the same way. Example:: triplet 8th notes Bolcom would place a brackett with a three in it above the notes. Then "sempre" meaning all 8th notes groupings are triplets. You could write a half-note tied to a 32nd note and then write sempre to indicate all half notes should be played this way. I would also include it in your instructions at the begining. |
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Since you aren't clear about what Bolcolm is doing here (in your "example", that is), what you say has to be interpreted. Two possible interpretations come immediately to mind:
1) Triplet eighths are still beamed in groups of three, but Bolcolm has simply stopped putting 3's above the beams. This, of course, is standard notation and needs no "sempre".
2) Bolcolm intends swing or shuffle eighths. (Since Bolcolm is often involved with popular music, this would be in character.) Again, writing normal eighths to stand for swing or shuffle eighths is entirely conventional.
Neither interpretation logically gives anyone the slightest license to allow a half note to stand for a half note tied to a thirty-second note or any similar practice. In fact, there is no excuse whatsoever for the proposed notational neolgism and if attempted it will fully deserve the scorn with which it will no doubt be met.
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